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germcevoy
God Part II
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Location: Ireland - Song of The Week : Heartland
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Originally posted by stj0691:
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only 10 lossless shows, none of them this show... on a related TUF era note, there are some shows from 1985
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yup I know that but the 84 shows have more War material and are far more energetic
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MWSAH
Mr. MacPhisto
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Location: Another Place, Another Time
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Originally posted by germcevoy:
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yup I know that but the 84 shows have more War material and are far more energetic
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Agree on that one...UF from 84 has more energy in the shows. Anyway, I have tried several times to get the lossless from Torrents. Didn't come much further than 6%. Hardly any seeders. If you get it someday Gerard, please notify me because I really want it. 
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aussiemofo
Wild Honey
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Location: Under Australian Skies
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aussiemofo's review of
1984-11-06 Glasgow, Scotland, The Barrowlands (Casper's remaster)
Sound
I don't know what Casper did to the original but he did a sterling job. This was one of the best to be reviewed by BRT in recent times. It offered a crisp, clear, audible recording totally deserving of its 4-star rating here. No song could be faulted and the audience also had their voice at the right spots - a near perfect presence. They weren't overly audible nor were they mute. But I guess the main reason I was left extremely satisfied was one word: Adam.
His bass had a very clear presence through Edge and Larry which is somewhat of a rarity on most boots. Very good sound which gave rise to a stellar TUF performance (see below). 
Performance
Wow!!!! What a hidden TUF treasure! Glasgow seems to have caught U2 at their TUF peak (or close to their peak) at this gig. This was an energised performance from top to bottom of which much credit should be given to a very fine and solid setlist. There was a great balance of the first four albums and the whole show flowed quite fluidly with exciting high points of energy (opening set, SBS-Electric Co. and Pride) coupled with beautifully intimate moments (A Sort of Homecoming, October & 40). With Edge well and truly on song, all tracks were performed very proficiently particularly the 'classics' such as Pride and SBS.
This was the first of two TUF concerts for the Glaswegians who were a very excited bunch and Bono saw fit to feed off that energy. A wonderful performance from a band obviously proud of and excited about their new material at the time.
Highlights (there are many but I'll keep it to a handful)
TUF & ASOH - I won't harp on this because I know how everyone feels about these two. Both were stunning renditions however I felt ASOH was more like the album version compared to other live recordings and Bono was holding back a little during TUF. Note to Bono: Please play ASOH when you next tour Australia....
The Cry/Electric Co. - There's a very good reason why this track was a constant staple during the first four tours - it always went off! More specifically, Bono went off, Edge went off and the crowd, ultimately went off! This gig was no exception. There's been better snippets than Amazing Grace but this song once again demonstrated its wonderful durability.
Gloria - I love this song! It's very adaptable live. Whether it feature in the opening set, as part of an encore or smack bang in the middle, it immediately excites regardless of what it follows or what it precedes and once again this rendition didn't disappoint.
Other notables:
Party Girl - It was played how it should be played - electric. I never want to see Edge play it acoustically again. It's just a let down.
Pride - Edge was flawless here I felt.
Low Points
This was such a great show, faults were very few and far between but if I was to be pedantic....
Two Hearts Beat As One - It's a weak song. This was one of the best renditions I've heard but you can only sugar-coat a turd so much and it shouldn't be in any setlist. It's no wonder it was shortlived.
No Bad snippets.  EDIT: No recognisable Bad snippets.
Overall
Great choosing Casper! Unlikely I would have listened to this gig had it not been a BRT show. Highly recommended for anyone wanting to hear the band during the mid-80's. This one's staying on my iPod for a little while yet. Sound + Performance = 8.5/10
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germcevoy
God Part II
Posts: 13554
Location: Ireland - Song of The Week : Heartland
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nice review there. The sound is indeed clear but there is just no depth, power or feel to it. It's like hearing a good recording played through a mobile phone speaker. I never listened to the original so i'm not sure if it was originally just weak or whether Casper needed to make some sacrifices in order to clean the overall sound up. The thinness of the recording thus took the edge of the performance for me. Bad is nothing without the boom of the bass drum, you can't hear Bono's power during Pride and Wire doesn't sound as frenzied as it should. Just adding my 2 cents, I still have to review properly.
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aussiemofo
Wild Honey
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Location: Under Australian Skies
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Originally posted by germcevoy:
nice review there. The sound is indeed clear but there is just no depth, power or feel to it. It's like hearing a good recording played through a mobile phone speaker. I never listened to the original so i'm not sure if it was originally just weak or whether Casper needed to make some sacrifices in order to clean the overall sound up. The thinness of the recording thus took the edge of the performance for me. Bad is nothing without the boom of the bass drum, you can't hear Bono's power during Pride and Wire doesn't sound as frenzied as it should. Just adding my 2 cents, I still have to review properly.
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Hmmmm. I guess I'm comparing to the previous 3 or 4 BRT boots of which this one was a standout soundwise. Certainly compared to Drew's Adelaide Lovetown. Still learning to identify all the different nuances from different recordings. Let me be your Padwan learner Master Germ! 
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germcevoy
God Part II
Posts: 13554
Location: Ireland - Song of The Week : Heartland
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Originally posted by aussiemofo:
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Hmmmm. I guess I'm comparing to the previous 3 or 4 BRT boots of which this one was a standout soundwise. Certainly compared to Drew's Adelaide Lovetown. Still learning to identify all the different nuances from different recordings. Let me be your Paduan learner Master Germ!
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compared to the previous few gigs the sound has been good indeed.Wait until you hear it in sweet lossless though. . .
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aussiemofo
Wild Honey
Posts: 1747
Location: Under Australian Skies
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Originally posted by germcevoy:
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compared to the previous few gigs the sound has been good indeed.Wait until you hear it in sweet lossless though. . .
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Just listening to Bad again now. Point taken about the bass drum.
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germcevoy
God Part II
Posts: 13554
Location: Ireland - Song of The Week : Heartland
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Originally posted by aussiemofo:
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Just listening to Bad again now. Point taken about the bass drum.
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criminal. Thats the best part of the song. . . 'if I could, I would let it. . ' boom boom . .
It pains me not to feel the bass drum like it should be heard but what the hell. The lossless might have it in there
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aussiemofo
Wild Honey
Posts: 1747
Location: Under Australian Skies
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Originally posted by germcevoy:
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criminal. Thats the best part of the song. . . 'if I could, I would let it. . ' boom boom . .
It pains me not to feel the bass drum like it should be heard but what the hell. The lossless might have it in there
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Do you acknowledge though that Adam is refreshingly audible here?
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germcevoy
God Part II
Posts: 13554
Location: Ireland - Song of The Week : Heartland
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Originally posted by aussiemofo:
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Do you acknowledge though that Adam is refreshingly audible here?
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audible but not powerful. I can here but it's weak. I like to hear and feel
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MWSAH
Mr. MacPhisto
Posts: 6704
Location: Another Place, Another Time
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Nice review mate. The original is somewhat soft. When I worked on this show, I was a rookie (still am btw, but I just started back then)...The original is quite good but I felt it could need more work on it. I love Bad here, the energy and speed. About the drum bass: I seem to get what you mean Gerard, but it's not a big point for me. As soon as we get hold of the lossless, we should re-encode it and put the links here. The show deserves it.
EDIT: Still no seeders on Torrents...
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WojBhoy
Mr. MacPhisto
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Location: England /// SotM - Smile
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Possibly have review up tonight, just wanna give it another listen through
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