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thechicken
Angel Of Harlem
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Location: Brazil
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Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:
Some Edge video goodness from the BBC? Certainly!
THE STORY OF THE GUITAR:
PART 1:
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PART 2:
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How does he make the "synth sound" beneath the sustainer guitar sound?
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WojBhoy
Mr. MacPhisto
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Location: England /// SotM - A Sort Of Homecoming
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Originally posted by thechicken:
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How does he make the "synth sound" beneath the sustainer guitar sound?
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Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:
That 'string' like sound is called "Shimmer". It is basically a harmonizer and reverb. Edge then blends that tone with his main signal. The shimmer is basically a pitched up and reverbed trail of the notes he's playing. He's used it tons and is a tradmark. E
How can the layman (us) get this? The Line 6 Verbzilla set to the 'Octo' setting is a cheap and effective way to achieve this tone.
Digitech IPS 33b is a nice rack harmonizer that works well for this tone.
Edge uses an Eventide harmonizer.
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wtshnnfb01
Wild Honey
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Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:
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Peter Buck has used a LP at every show I've seen since 1989. He got one around the time of the "Green" sessions. It isn't one that he uses often but does for the heavier things like form "Green" or "Monster" like "Orange Crush", "Stand", "Crush With Eyeliner", "I Took Your Name" & "What's The Frequency Kenneth".
"Crush With Eyeliner":
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"I Took Your Name":
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"What's The Frequency Kenneth" - WITH Dan Rather from Letterman in 1995!!!!
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"Stand":
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and here from The Arsenio Hall Show:
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Sorry. I always ascoiate him with the Ric.
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Alex
Boy-Girl
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Hm... I think I'll have to try one of those Verbzillas... I can think of quite a few song parts in our setlist that could benefit from it. GAS GAS GAS
Alex
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anstratdubh1979
Wild Honey
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Location: Los Angeles, California, in the US, on the earth.
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Originally posted by haytrain:
Just watched the videos Jeff posted with Edge talking about his guitars. What's the name of the effect Edge brought in when he was playing the inifinite guitar? It's a synth-y sort of sound....
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Fernandes Retro Rocket w/sustainer pick-up in the neck position.
The sustainer pickup works similar to the original 'infinite guitar' that Michael Brooks developed.
Edge used his original infinite guitar for The Joshua Tree through Zoo TV tour.
By Zooropa, as seen on the Sydney DVD, he began using a Les Paul with an E-bow for With Or Without You.
Since Popmart Edge has used various Fernandes (brand) guitars with Sustainer pickups.
Popmart "Decade Elite" w/sustainer. He had on sea foam and one orange.
Elevation "Native Pro" w/sustainer. Metallic green finish.
Vertigo Tour. Retro Rocket w/sustainer. Blackfinish, which ISN"T a stock colour for the Retro Rocket.
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RattleandHum1988
Boy-Girl
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Location: Canada //// A woman needs a man, like the Edge n..
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Man I love the sound and the look of those decades. I love the tone he got for discotheque on that tour, and how versitile it was going from a song like Disco to WOWY. I'll have to look into one of those for a future purchace
EDIT: Do they not make the decade anymore? I might just get a crappy guitar and put in the sustainer kit. Might be more reasonable.
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AAV711
Sweetest Thing
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Location: New York
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I bought a '97 Native off eBay about a year ago. Seller neglected to mention that he was a heavy smoker  , that the guitar wouldn't operate unless there was a 9V battery connected to the sustainer and that the bridge is unstable to the point that no string on the guitar ever stays in tune. BUYER BEWARE!!!!
To my knowledge most guitar shops don't carry them. I'd check one out IN A STORE before buying one from the internet...or at least make sure the seller is recommended to avoid making the mistake I did. In this economy I could really use that $300 now.......
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anstratdubh1979
Wild Honey
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Location: Los Angeles, California, in the US, on the earth.
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Edge's "Native" is a Native Pro. But his was heavily customized.
Natives come with 2 humbuckers. Edge had the regular humbuckers swapped out for two Duncan Hot Rails (Bridge and Mid positions) and the Sustainer Pickup in the bridge. A new pearl pickguard was needed to accomodate the new pickup setup and so cut and installed.
Also, the Native headstock has three tuners on top and three on bottom; like a Les Paul. Edge had the neck swapped out to a Decade style / 6 tuners on top neck/headstock - similar to a strat setup.
So if you want a Native Pro because EDGE used one, you will have to make a number of cusomizations.
His Decade Elites were mostly stock, except the sea foam wasn't custom for the Decade model. Decade Elite's are no longer made - haven't been for 8+ years.
You can get a stock Retro Rocket and it will be EXACTLY like Edge's except NOT black, as black is not a stock colour for the Retro Rocket.
How do I know this? I spoke with the artist rep from Fernades and he gave me the 411.
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Alex
Boy-Girl
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Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Originally posted by Alex:
Hm... I think I'll have to try one of those Verbzillas... I can think of quite a few song parts in our setlist that could benefit from it. GAS GAS GAS
Alex
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I tried a Verbzilla in the store. I really liked the effect, but in the end I didn't buy it. I can't accept the fact that these are much more expensive here in Europe, they only cost half as much in the USA (109USD compared to 159EUR). But US dealers don't send them to Europe... not even Amazon.com does.
I think I'm gonna order the Behringer Verbzilla Clone (RV600 Reverb Machine) instead. It's got some good reviews and it only costs 49EUR. 
Alex
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thechicken
Angel Of Harlem
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Location: Brazil
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Originally posted by Alex:
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I tried a Verbzilla in the store. I really liked the effect, but in the end I didn't buy it. I can't accept the fact that these are much more expensive here in Europe, they only cost half as much in the USA (109USD compared to 159EUR). But US dealers don't send them to Europe... not even Amazon.com does.
I think I'm gonna order the Behringer Verbzilla Clone (RV600 Reverb Machine) instead. It's got some good reviews and it only costs 49EUR.
Alex
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What exactlty are these?
EDIT: read it again...it is a reverb unit...hummm, reverb can be pretty although is is not my favorite effect.
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I was expecting something much more interesting. 
