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  1. Did anybody ever noticed … During the intro of the great performance of SBS in Denver, 1987-11-08, Bono mentioned in the movie “like we had today, in a town, called Enniskillen, where 11 (eleven) people lie dead, many more injured, on a Sunday, Bloody Sunday”. Eleven people (10 civilians and a police officer) were indeed killed that day.
    But listening to the boots of that night, he said “…Enniskillen, where 13 (thirteen) [or thirty (30) ?] people lie dead, …”.
    The point is not the exact number – that is now clear, and Bono couldn’t know the exact number on that night.
    But …. It is somehow strange how they managed to change/correct this so smoothly, not only on audio, but also in the movie …+ why correct ?
    In that same flow, I’m still wondering if the “live” footage of WOWY (Tempe, 12/1987) from R&H, really was live from that evening(s), and wasn’t mixed with non-live footage (so much resemblance with the official video …). Seems to me a lot was prepared or recorded during a soundcheck …
    Maybe this was already subject of a discussion on this forum - if so, sorry …
  2. In truth, every 'live' performance with video is a mixture or adaptation of what really happened. I'm sure they modified the number of the dead out of respect for the families in post-production. It is possible that that the take in Tempe was poor and they wanted the best version. The more one thinks about post, the more we realize nothing is real.
  3. I didn't know that... Very interesting
  4. Originally posted by kickthedarkness:Did anybody ever noticed … During the intro of the great performance of SBS in Denver, 1987-11-08, Bono mentioned in the movie “like we had today, in a town, called Enniskillen, where 11 (eleven) people lie dead, many more injured, on a Sunday, Bloody Sunday”. Eleven people (10 civilians and a police officer) were indeed killed that day.
    But listening to the boots of that night, he said “…Enniskillen, where 13 (thirteen) [or thirty (30) ?] people lie dead, …”.
    The point is not the exact number – that is now clear, and Bono couldn’t know the exact number on that night.
    But …. It is somehow strange how they managed to change/correct this so smoothly, not only on audio, but also in the movie …+ why correct ?
    In that same flow, I’m still wondering if the “live” footage of WOWY (Tempe, 12/1987) from R&H, really was live from that evening(s), and wasn’t mixed with non-live footage (so much resemblance with the official video …). Seems to me a lot was prepared or recorded during a soundcheck …
    Maybe this was already subject of a discussion on this forum - if so, sorry …
    A lot of the audio was touched up for the movie even the tempo of the songs are a lot more uptempo, I mean I saw the raw footage of All along the watchtower from SF on YouTube and it's very rough sounding and is completely different to the R&H version same with RTSS infact the whole film got major editing in the studio, I suppose if your putting it in the cinema it has to sound and look perfect.
  5. It's been well known for a long time that the first guitar part in AATW was modified in post-audio production.
  6. Oh man - there's basically edits in every single performance (as others have said). I had a "rough cut" of Rattle and Hum for a while, which had some alternate tracks, but much of the same, but it was like a pre-final edit version. Everything from Edge's vocals on Helter Skelter, to Bono's vocals in the gospel church for Still Haven't Found - everything received little touch ups. It's the same for every one of their live releases pretty much. Popmart Mexico had a fun moment during Still Haven't Found when Edge made a mistake and him and Adam look at each other and laugh - but of course it's edited out of the DVD release.

    The band has always been extremely conscious of how they represent themselves and aren't afraid to sculpt out a perfect video. I don't see a huge problem with it to be honest, they view their live releases like they do their albums, they know that little things/mistakes they make aren't necessarily representative of how they feel about themselves as musicians and want to fix them up.
  7. why?
  8. All bands do it. Kiss Alive was 99% studio and 1% live. That is why I love bootlegs. All the warts and mistakes if they come up. It is like you were at that particular show even if you didn't attend.
  9. No joke, no sarcasm, this is the content that keeps me on U2start 12+ years and running
  10. Silver&Gold was extended for the movie the part just before Bono says"Ok Edge play the blues " but what a song it should never have been resigned to the vaults.It would be great if they released a deluxe version of R&H as there was so much footage that was left out particularly from the Arizona gig until then will have to make do with with YouTube.
  12. I knew some of the things that have popped up in this thread but I didn't have a clue about many others (the number of deaths in Enniskillen is a pretty big deal!). Thank you everyone, keep them coming