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  1. Good examples for AI use:
    - recreating Churchills voice for a reading from his books
    - special effects in movies
    - stem separation (audio)
    - science/ medicine
    - restauration of old pictures, movies, audio
    - translation
    - U2 at the sphere (graphics, audio)
    - stage design
    - architecture
    - colouring of old b/w footage
    - supply management
  2. Originally posted by dstankie:[..]


    Can you give an example of a good use in art? I don't think that using it to create a "Beatles" song with a long-dead member counts.

    [..]


    No, I don't. But thank you for the unasked for, condescending advice.


    Don't be so sensitive

    You'll soon have many examples to quell your fears

    And thank you Papo

    AI isn't the nightmare scenario that many short-sighted people think it is

    With any advancement in science/tech/software etc that advancement is open to abuse from 'man' but that is not the fault of AI - that is the fault of 'man'

    Obviously there needs to be regulations in place so nobody gets abused BUT throughout the creative world before AI we have seen mass plagiarism especially in music by acts as big as The Beatles, Led Zep, The Stones and Oasis to name but a mere few

    AI is an instrument that can enhance creativity and forward-thinking and not just and instrument that abuses and destroys - don't believe all the plastic propaganda - but it needs legal regulations AS WITH ANY TECH
  3. I hate AI
  4. Don't be so sensitive


    Please stop telling me how to feel.

    You still haven't given an example of a good use of AI in art.

    How can AI "enhance creativity and forward thinking"? Be specific please. I need examples to be convinced.

    Do you work in tech? Are you in a creative field?

    In the creative field I know best--literature--I can't begin to fathom how AI can "enhance creativity and forward thinking." Shakespeare did just fine without it. So did, actually, every major (and minor) author to this point in history. As long as you have something to write on and something to write with, you have the necessary technology to make a poem or a play or a story. And actually, you don't even need those. Homer (or the bardic tradition that we call "Homer") did okay with human memory and oral recitation. I will concede that the technological innovation of figuring out how to write stuff down for future reference is pretty cool. But I don't think there has been an essential technological innovation in about 5000 years when it comes to literature. Nobody writing on a laptop is producing anything better than Shakespeare or "Homer" did.

    Note: making stuff easier to do is not an enhancement to creativity. In fact, it is often to the detriment of creativity.
  5. Completely agree with RedSky.

    Some don't want to understand it, some don't want to see it.

    Whether you like it or not, AI is going to become a huge tool in the future.

    And as always with everything; don't dwell on the past, but embrace the future.

    If there is one band in the world that has always done that with their live shows, it is U2.
  6. Originally posted by RedSky:[..]


    Don't be so sensitive

    You'll soon have many examples to quell your fears

    And thank you Papo

    AI isn't the nightmare scenario that many short-sighted people think it is

    With any advancement in science/tech/software etc that advancement is open to abuse from 'man' but that is not the fault of AI - that is the fault of 'man'

    Obviously there needs to be regulations in place so nobody gets abused BUT throughout the creative world before AI we have seen mass plagiarism especially in music by acts as big as The Beatles, Led Zep, The Stones and Oasis to name but a mere few

    AI is an instrument that can enhance creativity and forward-thinking and not just and instrument that abuses and destroys - don't believe all the plastic propaganda - but it needs legal regulations AS WITH ANY TECH
    It has been a nightmare scenario for me personally.

    Well behaved AI "Bots" will gladly avoid your content on a website if you ask nicely. But more and more bad behaviors are coming to the surface from AI systems that just ignore these requests. There's now a onslaught of AI "Bots" out there that ignore any request you make, and just constantly scan your content.

    Our site has been overwhelmed by the traffic on multiple occasions. We find a fix to block them, and they are back a month or two later to do the same thing over and over. It's creating excessive traffic, blocking legitimate traffic from seeing the site at times. Sometimes rebooting the site multiple times a day to discourage them, or taking things down for an hour or so when they get really excessive.

    And beyond that it's always lovely seeing my content popping up in other pages when there's no credit as to where the content comes from.

    To put a cap on things we've had to cap everyone. Fans and bots alike. So you visit too many pages in too short a time? You get a 30-day time out. Frustrating to have to implement, but so many bad behaving bots out there and they just ignore the typical requests to stop.

    AI has its uses, but I have a feeling the reputation of these systems will be tarnished a) before rules are in place and b) by blatant ignoring of the rules that are in place. And while I've been able to deal with it, some people are not in a position to do so and really struggling with the whole AI Boom.

    And that doesn't even begin to discuss the AI-run "fake celebrity accounts" on Facebook. I've got over 500 Bono accounts blocked at this time from the site account. It's an absolute waste of my time, but I do it so no one gets ripped off when they fall for one of these scams.
  7. Originally posted by dstankie:[..]


    Please stop telling me how to feel.

    You still haven't given an example of a good use of AI in art.

    How can AI "enhance creativity and forward thinking"? Be specific please. I need examples to be convinced.

    Do you work in tech? Are you in a creative field?

    In the creative field I know best--literature--I can't begin to fathom how AI can "enhance creativity and forward thinking." Shakespeare did just fine without it. So did, actually, every major (and minor) author to this point in history. As long as you have something to write on and something to write with, you have the necessary technology to make a poem or a play or a story. And actually, you don't even need those. Homer (or the bardic tradition that we call "Homer") did okay with human memory and oral recitation. I will concede that the technological innovation of figuring out how to write stuff down for future reference is pretty cool. But I don't think there has been an essential technological innovation in about 5000 years when it comes to literature. Nobody writing on a laptop is producing anything better than Shakespeare or "Homer" did.

    Note: making stuff easier to do is not an enhancement to creativity. In fact, it is often to the detriment of creativity.
    Please stop telling me to show you a good example of AI use in art - do a bit of research yourself as there's plenty of stuff out there

    "How can AI "enhance creativity and forward thinking"? " again do some research - do you want me to take you by the hand? If you find nothing then you aren't looking in the right places

    I am a graphic artist, a web designer, a photographer, a videographer, a song-writer, a musician, a writer - need I go on to prove my stance?

    You mention literature - I agree, people are thieving but to paraphrase Bono 'They're stealing from the thieves'. Of course I say that with my tongue firmly pressed inside my cheek but there is an element of truth in it also - and please don't ask me to explain that to you

    Your man Shakespeare was a well-known plagiarist for one

    And trust me you bardic tradition will never be under threat - well, I say that but the more AI learns then the better the results will be BUT this is where I agree that there needs to be legal regulation to separate the 'original' and the 'complied' for want of a better term

    But my views on AI is it being used as a tool to aid a creative and not as a sole tool to extract ideas from others and exploit their work - though we have to admit that human plagiarism has done just that for 100s of years

    My view is that a person who has an idea can use AI to expand on that idea and create something new and exciting - the origin of that idea lies within a human thought not an AI one
  8. Originally posted by struukangeren:Completely agree with RedSky.

    Some don't want to understand it, some don't want to see it.

    Whether you like it or not, AI is going to become a huge tool in the future.

    And as always with everything; don't dwell on the past, but embrace the future.

    If there is one band in the world that has always done that with their live shows, it is U2.
  9. Originally posted by u2wanderer1:[..]
    It has been a nightmare scenario for me personally.

    Well behaved AI "Bots" will gladly avoid your content on a website if you ask nicely. But more and more bad behaviors are coming to the surface from AI systems that just ignore these requests. There's now a onslaught of AI "Bots" out there that ignore any request you make, and just constantly scan your content.

    Our site has been overwhelmed by the traffic on multiple occasions. We find a fix to block them, and they are back a month or two later to do the same thing over and over. It's creating excessive traffic, blocking legitimate traffic from seeing the site at times. Sometimes rebooting the site multiple times a day to discourage them, or taking things down for an hour or so when they get really excessive.

    And beyond that it's always lovely seeing my content popping up in other pages when there's no credit as to where the content comes from.

    To put a cap on things we've had to cap everyone. Fans and bots alike. So you visit too many pages in too short a time? You get a 30-day time out. Frustrating to have to implement, but so many bad behaving bots out there and they just ignore the typical requests to stop.

    AI has its uses, but I have a feeling the reputation of these systems will be tarnished a) before rules are in place and b) by blatant ignoring of the rules that are in place. And while I've been able to deal with it, some people are not in a position to do so and really struggling with the whole AI Boom.

    And that doesn't even begin to discuss the AI-run "fake celebrity accounts" on Facebook. I've got over 500 Bono accounts blocked at this time from the site account. It's an absolute waste of my time, but I do it so no one gets ripped off when they fall for one of these scams.


    All this needs proper regulation and that is not the fault of AI - as AI is being exploited by bad people (as usual)

    Using AI to expand on a human idea and do so within the law and within principles and with credit paid where due is the way forward as it is a wondrous tool if used within those parameters
  10. Originally posted by RedSky:[..]


    All this needs proper regulation and that is not the fault of AI - as AI is being exploited by bad people (as usual)

    Using AI to expand on a human idea and do so within the law and within principles and with credit paid where due is the way forward as it is a wondrous tool if used within those parameters
    But the regulation isn't there. What little there is, is blatantly being ignored. So in the end I'm having no issues with holding the 'good' AI bots at bay, the ones I likely want crawling my site, while the 'bad' continue to wreak a bit of havoc..

    I see the positives that AI can bring to things - some of the advancements in science and medicine are incredible. But I think the implementation is failing rapidly, and it may be too late to try to reign it in. And that will cause more and more people to form negative opinions of it all. I see more and more creatives just frustrated on how it is working currently and expressing those frustrations.

    And even with good regulations, there's always going to be an element of society that will use these tools for evil. I literally almost missed out on an opportunity this week because the email looked like something generated by AI.
  11. Originally posted by u2wanderer1:[..]
    But the regulation isn't there. What little there is, is blatantly being ignored. So in the end I'm having no issues with holding the 'good' AI bots at bay, the ones I likely want crawling my site, while the 'bad' continue to wreak a bit of havoc..

    I see the positives that AI can bring to things - some of the advancements in science and medicine are incredible. But I think the implementation is failing rapidly, and it may be too late to try to reign it in. And that will cause more and more people to form negative opinions of it all. I see more and more creatives just frustrated on how it is working currently and expressing those frustrations.

    And even with good regulations, there's always going to be an element of society that will use these tools for evil. I literally almost missed out on an opportunity this week because the email looked like something generated by AI.
    I feel for you man - but it's up to us all to demand regulation

    And let's not forget that bad people will always ignore the rules - and that is why it is for governments and bodies to get some balls and use tougher laws to protect us and to punish wrongdoers

    Money makes the world go around unfortunately - not principles or morals
  12. The counterpart for Artificial Intelligence is Natural Stupidity