U2 2027 Tour Thoughts

Please stop telling me to show you a good example of AI use in art - do a bit of research yourself as there's plenty of stuff out there

"How can AI "enhance creativity and forward thinking"? " again do some research - do you want me to take you by the hand? If you find nothing then you aren't looking in the right places

I am a graphic artist, a web designer, a photographer, a videographer, a song-writer, a musician, a writer - need I go on to prove my stance?

You mention literature - I agree, people are thieving but to paraphrase Bono 'They're stealing from the thieves'. Of course I say that with my tongue firmly pressed inside my cheek but there is an element of truth in it also - and please don't ask me to explain that to you

Your man Shakespeare was a well-known plagiarist for one

And trust me you bardic tradition will never be under threat - well, I say that but the more AI learns then the better the results will be BUT this is where I agree that there needs to be legal regulation to separate the 'original' and the 'complied' for want of a better term

But my views on AI is it being used as a tool to aid a creative and not as a sole tool to extract ideas from others and exploit their work - though we have to admit that human plagiarism has done just that for 100s of years

My view is that a person who has an idea can use AI to expand on that idea and create something new and exciting - the origin of that idea lies within a human thought not an AI one

Originally posted by dstankie:[..]


I simply asked for some examples of AI "enhancing creativity and forward thinking."

I'm not even sure we can agree on what those words mean when you won't even provide an example for me.

I think you're overlooking the obvious differences between this technology and old-fashioned plagiarism.

And I think you're missing the overwhelmingly negative consequences that simple "regulation" won't be able to deal with. To give one example that is different from U2Wanderer's, there is no way my college (or any other) can "regulate" itself out of the crisis in cheating (and therefore crisis in learning) caused by AI.

Anyway, I'm done with this discussion since it isn't even clear to me that you considered my points at all carefully or have any interest in actually persuading.

You apparently just want to tell me how stupid and short-sighted my position is.

No you're not stupid - but short-sighted? I guess we can agree on that point at least

Originally posted by dstankie:[..]


A personal put-down. Classy.

And I thought you might want to defend/explain your position with actual logic, facts, and examples since you were so quick to tell me that my position was wrong.

Originally posted by justinpushplay:At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter how any of us feel about AI. It’s here, technology doesn’t go backwards. So you can use it to make the world and your life better, or you can use it to make shit worse. That’s the thing about artificial intelligence is that it was created by us so it’s a reflection of us, so everything bad about it, is everything bad about us. I make music, and last year there was a song that I desperately wanted a saxophone part on, but as a middle-aged man who doesn’t play saxophone and doesn’t know anyone that does I came up with a brilliant idea. I played a guitar line for four bars and then had an AI change the instrument from a guitar into a saxophone. Now there might be people that are at odds with this idea, but I wanted the song to sound the way it did in my head and I didn’t want to compromise. For me intention is everything, and when it comes to AI it’s about why you’re using the tool and what you’re hoping to get out of it, like anything else. As for use and creativity, people were upset when the synthesizer showed up, people were upset when computer effects showed up in movies.. but then it becomes the norm. So I don’t know what the world‘s gonna look like in a post AI generation, but if we’re good, it’ll be good

Originally posted by juandicorrea:Ok let's try to guess the 2027 Tour Setlist:

1) New Album Opener
2) Resurrection Song
3) Easter Parade
4) New Album Song
3) City of Blinding Lights
4) In A Life
5) I Will Follow / Out Of Control
6) Beautiful Day (Gloria snippet)

-- E-Stage --
7) Even Better Than The Real Thing
8) Mysterious Ways
9) Elevation
10) Vertigo

-- Political Section --
11) One Life At A Time / Bullet The Blue Sky
13) Sunday Bloody Sunday / New Year’s Day (Coexist snippet)
12) Running To Stand Still / Miss Sarajevo (Miss Palestine)
14) Pride (In The Name of Love)
15) Where the Streets Have No Name

Encore 1
16) Until The End Of The World
17) The Fly
18) Acrobat
19) Tears of Things
20) One

Encore 2
21) Bad / I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
22) With or Without You
23) 40

I think this is a good setlist

Originally posted by juandicorrea:Ok let's try to guess the 2027 Tour Setlist:

1) New Album Opener
2) Resurrection Song
3) Easter Parade
4) New Album Song
3) City of Blinding Lights
4) In A Life
5) I Will Follow / Out Of Control
6) Beautiful Day (Gloria snippet)

-- E-Stage --
7) Even Better Than The Real Thing
8) Mysterious Ways
9) Elevation
10) Vertigo

-- Political Section --
11) One Life At A Time
12) Bullet The Blue Sky
13) Until The End of The World
14) Acrobat
15) Sunday Bloody Sunday (Coexist snippet)
16) Tears of Things / Miss Sarajevo (Miss Palestine)

Encore 1
17) Pride (In The Name of Love)
18) Where the Streets Have No Name
19) One

Encore 2
20) New Year’s Day
21) Bad / I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
22) With or Without You
23) 40

I think this is a good setlist

Originally posted by nicko:Will blue dot fever affect this tour somewhat?