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  1. Probably. But not just the title, also lyrics to the song. Changing song’s titles, even without changing music, is not a problem for U2 as we can see with Smile. In this case it wouldn’t help though.
  2. Originally posted by u2wanderer1:[..]
    In general the term "Native" has fallen out of favour in many places and is seen as not-respectful now. Many writing guides in Canada now suggest that the term be avoided completely unless one is of Indigenous ancestry. So that might have caused some second thought if they had considered it.

    Yes, there was room on Side B of the album for it, they had room for about another 3.5 minutes on that side. Side A was pretty much at its limit. There would not have been room to move "Picture of You" to the second side however.


    It’s just a matter of songs order. If Native Son was to be included, they would have changed the order of a few other songs and find some space for it. True reason for exclusion were probably lyrics to the song, I agree.
  3. Originally posted by U21960:[..]
    Which the stupid u2 store is not working properly for the HTDAAB merch. I tried to purchase and I get it doesn't ship to your state [US store]..another person met the $100 purchase level where you are supposed to get a free set of guitar picks..and the system was trying to charge $30. Others have reported not being able to purchase as well. Maybe it wasn't supposedly to be "live" until Black Friday.


    Has anyone been able to successfully use their provided U2BLACKFRIDAY code for free US shipping? Or access the free guitar picks over $100?

    I''ve waited a few days now for them to fix, but still not seeing....
  4. I have not. I've tried ordering multiple times over the weekend.
  6. Honestly the song could have been written about Peltier and the book, although I know Bono referenced Peltier as being the influence. I would have been interested in hearing the Shark Soup or Hard Metal Jacket iterations of Vertigo
  7. Originally posted by bonoschild:Honestly the song could have been written about Peltier and the book, although I know Bono referenced Peltier as being the influence. I would have been interested in hearing the Shark Soup or Hard Metal Jacket iterations of Vertigo
    Yeah in U2 by U2 he said: "It’s like cell division, our songs keep shedding their skin and a new song emerges. ‘Native Son’ was inspired by Leonard Peltier, the Native American rights activist, and it was an interesting idea for a song. On its way to becoming ‘Vertigo’ it stopped off at the mezzanine floor and turned into ‘Shark Soup.’”
  8. I’m over it all already. Release week buzz has been and gone. Treason and Evidence of life remain interesting and I hope the Redanka mix of Miracle Drug makes it to Spotify.

    Now let’s hope they get back to work looking forwards rather than back (again).
  9. Relieved they didn't re-assemble 'Smile' Well, apart from the title, I guess.
    Best thing about U2 is that they're (still) full of these little ironies

    Think I like 'Country Mile' as well. Surprised that 'Happiness' never made it to the final cut.
    But it could have been on NLOTH as well... (and it even got some of that Pop flavor - nice!).

    'Are You Gonna Wait Forever' sounds better than my old cd-single...Good!

    ...20th anniversary...omg...cheers to all you fellow dinosaurs out there!
  10. Originally posted by bonoschild:Honestly the song could have been written about Peltier and the book, although I know Bono referenced Peltier as being the influence. I would have been interested in hearing the Shark Soup or Hard Metal Jacket iterations of Vertigo
    I always thought "Shark Soup" was a 'patch' that Edge had created with his his Line 6 tools.
  11. Originally posted by u2wanderer1:[..]
    Yeah in U2 by U2 he said: "It’s like cell division, our songs keep shedding their skin and a new song emerges. ‘Native Son’ was inspired by Leonard Peltier, the Native American rights activist, and it was an interesting idea for a song. On its way to becoming ‘Vertigo’ it stopped off at the mezzanine floor and turned into ‘Shark Soup.’”
    When "Native Son' first came out I didn't make the connection at all to Leonard Peltier. I has assumed it was written about a man who was at odds with his own countries expectations specifically in Ireland. Glen Hansard has also written about this topic.

    Rage Against the Machine also advocated for his release from prison in this video:

  12. Originally posted by miryclay:[..]
    When "Native Son' first came out I didn't make the connection at all to Leonard Peltier. I has assumed it was written about a man who was at odds with his own countries expectations specifically in Ireland. Glen Hansard has also written about this topic.

    Rage Against the Machine also advocated for his release from prison in this video:

    [YouTube Video]
    The title calling it Native Son (even though the term Native was likely a more direct reference to being Indigenous) at the time would totally be a tongue in cheek reference.

    Also in the US it seems people use "Native American" still as opposed to Indigenous being the term used in Canada.

    The title is clever in a number of ways. Technically the only people "native" to North America are those with indigenous backgrounds.

    "My enemy became my country " is powerful considering colonization and the westernization of North American society.