1. First I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Pete and I am 24 years old. I've been a fan of u2 for about 6 years now. I actually had the opportunity to see them live in my hometown of Tampa, FL in November of 2005. That night I came home from the event and I google searched "u2 tours" to see where else they would be playing. I came across the website "www.u2tours.com" which lets you basically post about shows you've been to and your experience etc.. I'm sure this is all old to you avid fans. Anyway I sometimes read on certain shows "tonights show is filmed" ... maybe some of you long time fans can shed some light on this subject. Do you think this is strictly for personal enjoyment/feedback, or do you think they might release future DVDs 5, 10, 15 years from now??
  2. I think and I hope I'm wrong on this, that YEARS FROM NOW when U2 is no longer around, there will be box sets of material that isn't out yet that was recorded years ago or is being records now that they don't think is worthy of a new album. So they set it away for like box sets because if you read interviews with Paul McGuinness from atU2.com they are supposed to have box sets ready for like the year 2015 - 2020 to sort of 'look back' at their success. Like POPMart the DVD is coming out in April but it was recorded in '97. See were I'm getting at with this? I hope I'm wrong tho and will get new DVD's ASAP.
  3. I don't think that U2 film the shows for personal enjoyment; many times it says "The show is filmed" while really is being broadcasted by a local TV or so. I thjink U2 has recorded a few shows, and they have been already released! But it's funny to imagine them seing, for example, the broacast of Los Angeles '87-11-18...
    But all of we hope they release every show they record... It would be great!!
  4. Actually, U2 films a whole lot of shows when they're planning to release a DVD. By choosing the best moments a film is assembled or they release the show they like the most or that fits their goals in that specific moment. Then you have the local TV stations who are always dealing to broadcast the concerts (sometimes it's possible, sometimes not). So yes, there's a world of film material from every tour and yes, huge bands tend to keep it locked for the future, when musicians make money of their name and not out of their music, but I don' think it will be that far when you meet many of those films. Bootlegers work hard and fast --- specially on U2.
  5. There are also a lot of shows recorded for preparation of film nights like a lot of shows before the ZooTV Sydney broadcast, Adelaide is one that's widely available now for example.
  6. Adelaide 93 is widely available because it was broadcast to a contest winner in Australia. The tape came from there, not from crew or practice or anything like that. Just like the Stockholm 92 tape, same thing, came from the contest winner. They had a show broadcast into their homes. They got to keep a tape of the show.

    U2 archives all of their audio and a great deal of their video. 99.9 % of it will never see the light of day. They use it to check to see what is working, what they can do to improve the show and in case they need to go back to it to remember a particular event or check something they may want to do in the future. They do film some things for practice or if they need additional shots for a project. But most of it is just for their archives.

    I think a few of the audio recordings could make a box set or something down the road. But most of the video would not be deemed suitable for any type of official release.
  7. Originally posted by Blue_RoomAdelaide 93 is widely available because it was broadcast to a contest winner in Australia. The tape came from there, not from crew or practice or anything like that. Just like the Stockholm 92 tape, same thing, came from the contest winner. They had a show broadcast into their homes. They got to keep a tape of the show.

    U2 archives all of their audio and a great deal of their video. 99.9 % of it will never see the light of day. They use it to check to see what is working, what they can do to improve the show and in case they need to go back to it to remember a particular event or check something they may want to do in the future. They do film some things for practice or if they need additional shots for a project. But most of it is just for their archives.

    I think a few of the audio recordings could make a box set or something down the road. But most of the video would not be deemed suitable for any type of official release.


    But it was also a rehearsal for the Sydney show I guess? At least that's what sources like u2-vertigo-tour.com say. I watched yesterday a pro-shot recording of Popmart Edmonton, seems like a recording by a crew member or something. U2 also watches many shows back to learn from it and see what they can improve.
  8. Originally posted by Blue_Room Just like the Stockholm 92 tape, same thing, came from the contest winner. They had a show broadcast into their homes. They got to keep a tape of the show.

    U2 archives all of their audio and a great deal of their video. 99.9 % of it will never see the light of day.


    Well, I don't know, because stockholm is available in two different versions, the sepia one (which was the first) and the full color. Then, not all the pro-shot Zoos came from contest-winners, try Washington '92 for size. Or Mexico City '92 too.
    About the 99.9%, well, they did kept locked the New Year's Eve show and released it offically last year, but it was available for 16 years. Recently I've found better recordings, sometimes sounboards, for shows that previously were available on audience recordings, and the Salome 3-CD set was improved up to 7 discs also last year (and everyone thoght the 3 cd set was all you could get from Hansa Ton sessions), so I would give a little faith to the future.

  9. They filmed the entire charlote 2005 show. it was filmed by Espn for world cup promos. i never saw anything from it. I think it will show up some day, just like DC 92 did or maybe Miami Pomart. We can only hope....
  10. Originally posted by redguitaronfire[..]

    Well, I don't know, because stockholm is available in two different versions, the sepia one (which was the first) and the full color. Then, not all the pro-shot Zoos came from contest-winners, try Washington '92 for size. Or Mexico City '92 too.
    About the 99.9%, well, they did kept locked the New Year's Eve show and released it offically last year, but it was available for 16 years. Recently I've found better recordings, sometimes sounboards, for shows that previously were available on audience recordings, and the Salome 3-CD set was improved up to 7 discs also last year (and everyone thoght the 3 cd set was all you could get from Hansa Ton sessions), so I would give a little faith to the future.




    LOL, the Stockholm one is not different. The sepia one is a higher generation and it lost its color as a result. Because John (the contest winner) dubbed his cassette so much it wore down. Someone still had a better generation of it from him that still had the color and put it on DVD finally. BOTH are still from the same source though. Plus, I never said all the pro shots came from contest winners. I said the reason Adelaide 93 surfaced is because of the contest winner in addition to Stockholm.

    Where is there a pro shot of Mexico City 92? Mexico City 97 was also broadcast on TV prior to official release. Thats why that was/is out there. DC 92 surfaced because they filmed it technically for a possible pay per view concert. They did the Fox special instead so it was scrapped. But one of the extra crew members for that shoot let it out. It did not come from U2's archives though, meaning a U2 crew member did not leak it.

    The New Years 89 show was broadcast on the radio. Later there was a BBC transcription disc of it also. So its not like that leaked out of U2's archives prior to thier official release either.

    Hansa Ton sessons were stolen, all the tapes. The other discs have always existed. They just were not traded out because there really wasnt much on them. Again, they didnt come from U2's archives.

    What I'm trying to say is, the examples you have given have leaked because other sources got ahold of them by other means. They didnt come from the U2 archive. They have recorded most of their shows since 1982. That is alot of audio. Thats why I say 99.9 % of it will never see the light of day. Because even if they did release a few things someday, it will be a very small amount in comparison to what exists.

  11. Do you really think that tons of shows does exist filmed by U2?
    I don't think so... For example, i don't think there are too many WAR's shows filmed (Red Rocks, Germany and...), the same for LOVETOWN, I don't think U2 filmed any Lovetown show... I know there are tons of Broadcasts, but that's not U2 FILMS!!!

  12. LOL, let's take it one step at the time:

    Originally posted by Blue_Room[..]

    LOL, the Stockholm one is not different. The sepia one is a higher generation and it lost its color as a result. Because John (the contest winner) dubbed his cassette so much it wore down. Someone still had a better generation of it from him that still had the color and put it on DVD finally.

    So are you a friend of John's or what? Do you realize it takes the same effort to film a PPV concert than a contest winner one? So filming crew can also release on their own.

    Originally posted by Blue_Room[...]

    Plus, I never said all the pro shots came from contest winners. I said the reason Adelaide 93 surfaced is because of the contest winner in addition to Stockholm.

    But you seem to believe the only other option is waiting until an officcial release...

    Originally posted by Blue_Room[..]

    Where is there a pro shot of Mexico City 92? Mexico City 97 was also broadcast on TV prior to official release. Thats why that was/is out there.

    Stream the U2 torrents to find Zoo TV, nov-25-1992. Hint: it's not the complete show, starts from One on. Another hint: 4 Zoos from Mexico City were actually recorded because ALL were meant to be broadcast. Bootlegs come from the company who filmed it, though, of course, U2 must have a copy. Footage was used later on TV specials, plus interviews with Adam and Edge, and a press conference.
    And about 97, which I didn't metioned by the way, both shows were filmed in Mexico and the announcement it would be into DVD came at the same time they were boradcasted.


    Originally posted by Blue_Room[..]

    What I'm trying to say is, the examples you have given have leaked because other sources got ahold of them by other means. They didnt come from the U2 archive. They have recorded most of their shows since 1982. That is alot of audio. Thats why I say 99.9 % of it will never see the light of day. Because even if they did release a few things someday, it will be a very small amount in comparison to what exists.


    Here we go again: those examples are to tell you not to expect U2 to release offically that material. BUT it doesn't mean it will never "see the daylight". Further than Rattle and Hum there was nothing else out from the Joshua Tree Tour and now you can actually get the whole gig. You can say you want it on DVD or in double-soundboard-audio discs... but to be honest, what company should edit hundreds of DVD's, specially when setlists are pretty much the same? Wouldn't it be smarter to release a new record and play a new tour?
    But, to finish this and not to bore you, what I meant was that when U2 finally released The New Year's Eve concert, for instance, it was meaningless for most die-hard fans: It already was available (that's the key word in my former post, man: you don't need to wait, in will be available before). So, don't lose faith baby...