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  1. Originally posted by Sydney_MIke:Without challenging or criticising your perspective, this was the moment U2 almost lost me as a fan. It just felt like Eno was having too much influence and taking them too far left of their original fan base with esoteric artiness. But I persevered and, much later, came to appreciate the dark lyricism of Pop.


    I understand your point, for sure. I was only 14 when Pop was released. I had spent the previous year delving into U2's back catalog, and my mind was blown! The HMTMKMKM/Batman hype is actually what put U2 on my radar. Then I remember listening to my Dad's CDs of JT and RH. I "Borrowed" the cassette of UABRS from my Uncle, and my collection grew from there. But Pop was the first time U2 did anything new since I became a fan, and I was just fucking ON BOARD. They could've done anything and I would've probably been over the moon about it!

    But I understand what a long time U2 fan from the 80's must've thought when Pop came out. I liken it to Coldplay with me. Parachutes, AROBTTH and X&Y were all albums that came out roughly during my "relevant college years", even though I'm pretty sure I had graduated by the time of X&Y, but I was still in that mindset. So that is MY Coldplay. They changed some over the years, but once they released A Head Full of Dreams, that was just a bridge too far for me. Fortunately, I like Everyday Life quite a bit.
  2. Yeah he took shrooms but he said it was a one time thing I think
  3. Originally posted by Ricku2:[..]
    I was just saying that to avoid any discussion.. actually I'm more with Dean on this.. it's a bit of a vague term anyway, and it's not even said that Christians can't use drugs or whatever.. at least there was a lot of alcohol involved in the bible.. and women.. and music.. usually Christians are pretending a lot, I think Bono is actually a good example of what maybe works better.. he's maybe not the perfect Christian, but he does many good things and enjoys life...


    Christians doen't do well in the studies either, the states in the Us that have highest % religious people(christian) is the states with highest rates in crime, divorces, teen pregnancy, abortion, low income, worse healthcare, worse education....
    The states that have highest % atheists are the states with lowest rates in crime, divorces, teen pregnancy, abortion and have also the best education, best healthcare, higher income....
    Those studies says alot.
  4. Originally posted by Peterrrrr:[..]


    Christians doen't do well in the studies either, the states in the Us that have highest % religious people(christian) is the states with highest rates in crime, divorces, teen pregnancy, abortion, low income, worse healthcare, worse education....
    The states that have highest % atheists are the states with lowest rates in crime, divorces, teen pregnancy, abortion and have also the best education, best healthcare, higher income....
    Those studies says alot.
    Sorry but those studies have very little correlation. I don’t have an opinion on this but what you’re saying is just false.
  5. Originally posted by guykirk9:[..]
    Sorry but those studies have very little correlation. I don’t have an opinion on this but what you’re saying is just false.
    Higher education often makes people less believers.
    Is the same thing with the rates over the world, Denmark, Sweden, Findland, Iceland, Norway are the countries that have best rates in almost everything and they are the countries with highest % atheists.
    Non-relgious people tend to have better views on homosexuality, woman rights, accepting science....
    Also the worse the living standards is in a country the higher chance is that the people are relgiious.
  6. Peter, as long as people have 'better' views
  7. This is all derailing a bit from Popmart or even U2. Let's take this discussion to the religion politics thread if you like.