Originally posted by Bloodraven:Regardless of its artistic merits, the video is a statement they wanted to make, so they did it.
They knew some of their fans would hate them for it, and they still decided that saying it it was more important than trying to stay on the safe side with everybody.
Good for them. Regardless if it's too on the nose or whatever, it shows balls. Just for that I love it.
About the antifa or whatever discussion, it's just whataboutism. "Don't say anything mean about x unless you also point the finger at y" is nonsense, "x" is wrong so it's great that they pointing at it.
It's not that the kkk is roaming on the streets of USA, it's just that some of the arguments of many supporters of Trump are at least close enough to the kkk ideas that the kkk itself is very pleased with it.
If someone identifies themselves as Trump supporters and your problem with the video is that "you support Trump but you don't agree with the kkk at all", good, the video is not attacking you in any way.
But if your problem with the video is that "you may agree with kkk on some issues, BUT there's nothing wrong with it, and/or also the other side has issues", then yes, you should feel attacked with the video, because that's exactly the problem they are addressing with it: kkk ideas are roaming free and unashamed in everyday life since a couple of years ago.
That said, I am a little unclear at the rest. "Don't say anything mean about x unless you also point the finger at y" is nonsense, "x" is wrong so it's great that they pointing at it."? If "x" is wrong, yes, "y" should definitely call them out, but if you call them out by using the same approach as "x" , what does that make "y"? You can call "y" right and "x" wrong?
The fact that this is considered nonsense is part of the problem, that we all need to Get Out of Our Own Way and be rational human beings. If we have convictions, be brave enough to speak for them. Stand for them. Show your face. Show your emotion. Don't destroy property. Don't hurl things at one another. Don't fight for free speech and then firebomb a venue that has a speaker who's speech you don't agree with, or intimidate those who choose to go and see him. How does that lead to progress?
Again, we can debate this all day long. For me, both sides are wrong. I'm not saying one side isn't way, way wrong compared to the other - but even so, two wrongs never make anything right...