1. U2 come of a different generation of music consumption than the younger consumers. With that comes different values.
  2. Not an excuse. Other bands from their generation and before have extensive streaming catalogues.
  3. Originally posted by Welsh_Edge:[..]
    That’s hardly anything.

    They should release everything on Spotify/Apple music. It really is shocking. Who buys physical releases anymore? A minority and those people who do buy them, rip it and put it back on the shelf forever.
    I think the vast majority of stuff that’s been released physically has been made available on Spotify/apple. The dvd releases have never been made available on cd except for a few with from the fanclub which I can understand them not putting on streaming sites given they charge u2.com members to have these ‘exclusive’ gifts. What they should have done is release cd’s of vertigo Chicago, elevation Boston, 360 rose bowl etc when the DVD’s came out either with the dvd as a boxset or separately. Then they probably would have appeared on Spotify and iTunes like the other live releases that were available on cd have.
  4. DVD / BLU RAY seems the mostly likely
    slighty off topic but i cant see 4K HD taken
    off see the link https://tinyurl.com/vpbqmha

    i Still have Rattle and Hum on CDi what a
    Sound that was really Great back then

    anyways looking Foward to Live in Berlin
    it will prob be Blu ray for me since ive had
    one for a while.
  5. Nobody is under obligation to share their personal works on a web service that they feel doesn't meet their needs, respect their creations or pay adequate royalties.

    Personally, I don't feel spotify does justice to their efforts required to create a recorded work.

    I wonder would WelshEdge feel the same after he created, funded, recorded, promoted and then toured a recording.

    Only to have some dipshit on the Internet critique it.
  6. Originally posted by miryclay:[..]
    Nobody is under obligation to share their personal works on a web service that they feel doesn't meet their needs, respect their creations or pay adequate royalties.

    Personally, I don't feel spotify does justice to their efforts required to create a recorded work.

    I wonder would WelshEdge feel the same after he created, funded, recorded, promoted and then toured a recording.

    Only to have some dipshit on the Internet critique it.
    People will still buy the physical releases. Just not many.

    I’m just saying that it is extremely confusing why U2, one of the greatest live bands, do not have more live audio releases available on streaming services. It would be more accessible to more fans - casual fans, as well as people discovering U2.

    The live versions of the songs from SOE are far better than the record.

    Yes, there are arguments against Spotify, Apple Music etc due to royalty payments of course, but it is how hundreds of millions of people listen to music now.
  7. Probably going to be a March release. Interestingly on sky on demand when it first aired it said available for 175 days. Now it says available for 15 days.
  8. Originally posted by Welsh_Edge:[..]
    People will still buy the physical releases. Just not many.

    I’m just saying that it is extremely confusing why U2, one of the greatest live bands, do not have more live audio releases available on streaming services. It would be more accessible to more fans - casual fans, as well as people discovering U2.

    The live versions of the songs from SOE are far better than the record.

    Yes, there are arguments against Spotify, Apple Music etc due to royalty payments of course, but it is how hundreds of millions of people listen to music now.
    I think one way does not invalidate the other. It is possible to launch in streaming, but also in physical releases. The physical can never cease to exist, as this is where the fan is most satisfied, having something he can see at any time he wants, where he can eventually ask for an autograph to have in his collection. But I find it interesting some shows in streaming, as long as it is something punctual, for example: Certain show in poster during January. As if it were a theater play, and for each season a new contract.
  9. Originally posted by AnselmoLopes:[..]
    I think one way does not invalidate the other. It is possible to launch in streaming, but also in physical releases. The physical can never cease to exist, as this is where the fan is most satisfied, having something he can see at any time he wants, where he can eventually ask for an autograph to have in his collection. But I find it interesting some shows in streaming, as long as it is something punctual, for example: Certain show in poster during January. As if it were a theater play, and for each season a new contract.
    Agreed, the future is multiple formats. Streaming has its place and uses but far down the list for me.
  10. It also takes significant effort to mix live releases to the bands satisfaction. They also have to sign off on it. They might want to follow Neil Young's approach to archival products and HQ audio services. He and his team are doing a great job getting stuff out.

  11. True - but you also have to realize (I'm sure you do) that you're the outlier here. You say the future is multiple formats - I disagree, I think physical formats will cease to exist, probably in the not-so-distant future from now. You're already seeing it with movies and video games - the push is for all-digital. We may never see a true end to physical releases, but it'll be a niche market compared to the alternative - like how records have made a comeback, but it's still a tiny percent of musical listeners who actually buy them.

    Originally posted by miryclay:It also takes significant effort to mix live releases to the bands satisfaction. They also have to sign off on it. They might want to follow Neil Young's approach to archival products and HQ audio services. He and his team are doing a great job getting stuff out.

    This is the real reason right here. U2 are too perfectionist to be willing to release live shows willy nilly. They have to find the best version of a concert from a tour, edit it like fucking crazy so there are no mistakes, so that the mix is perfect, and then MAYBE they'll release it.

    It's really too bad since if they asked literally any fan, that fan would just be happy to have ANYTHING lol. They really need to have more faith in themselves, and faith in their fans when it comes to compromise - 99% of fans don't care if Edge makes a mistake in a recording, in fact we relish it because it proves he's human haha.
  12. Really, for me too!!