1. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    Of course when I call something ‘best’ in regards to music it is only my opinion as well. It isn’t a fact but it is the same to me as saying something’s my favourite. There is no facts in music regarding favourite or best unless you bring stats into it and that is the last way I’d measure quality of music. I’m not saying ok computer is average I just think it’s good. I don’t understand how people think it’s great. It doesn’t mean it isn’t great but I can’t understand it. I can understand someone thinking JT is better than AB even though I think the opposite because they’re both quality but I don’t think ok computer is in the same league as the bends, or kid a for that matter. But again it’s only my opinion but just assume from now on when I say something I realise it isn’t a fact.
    The reason why people think OK Computer is great is because it has some of the best songs they've ever written on there: Paranoid Android, Let Down, Karma Police & Lucky. It isn't considered as their "magnum opus" for no reason.

    Okay, well please refrain from using words like "baffling" then, that's how a challenging discussion like this occurs.
  2. Originally posted by MattG:[..]


    This would've been a good natural place to take the conversation

    I happen to agree with you that The Bends is absolutely friendlier to a wider audience. I think that album shows them really embracing the music they wanted to make. They took a genre that was extremely popular at the time and made it sound like it hadn't sounded yet - extremely talented work of art, The Bends.

    I think OK Computer is the only-slightly-better album because by that point, it wasn't about reinventing a popular genre...they were inventing a new one all on their own. Nothing that came before that record had ever sounded like it, and nearly everything that happened in alternative rock music afterwards took some sort of inspiration from it.

    It took me a very long time as a Radiohead fan to switch from Bends to OKC, but it did finally happen.

    Massive fan of both albums.
    Well thanks for your input, genuinely. I’m sure Kieran has an equally valid opinion to express. Maybe I’m just coming across wrong. Baffling maybe sounded confrontational but I did try and defuse the tone by saying that’s opinions for you. I have a strong view but I wasn’t trying to put it across strong enough to be confrontational. Maybe the one word response of ‘baffling‘ was a bit confrontational but I thought Kieran was having a little dig with his comment when quoting me, not in an extreme way or anything, and I was having a little dig back.
  3. Originally posted by KieranU2:[..]
    The reason why people think OK Computer is great is because it has some of the best songs they've ever written on there: Paranoid Android, Let Down, Karma Police & Lucky. It isn't considered as their "magnum opus" for no reason.

    Okay, well please refrain from using words like "baffling" then, that's how a challenging discussion like this occurs.
    I’ve only just seen this after my last post. If that’s why people think ok computer is great then that’s fine. I could name fake plastic trees, street spirit, high and dry, and just on the bends and could carry on listing the full album to back up my opinion. Again though my argument and opinion would be no less right or wrong than the view of others even if I was in the minority. I don’t think baffling is a particularly strong word but if the general consensus on here is that it is confrontational I will refrain from using it.
  4. Originally posted by RUMMY:[..]
    A beautiful album, indeed.
    (Was hoping for a 20th anniversary release of some sort here, but alas...)


    Kid A is a fantastic release , but I have always preferred the songs live . Much more punch to them . Im a bit biased though, as I was at the infamous Victoria Park show 20 years ago today. Amazing time.

    I'm definitely (maybe) old.
  5. Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]


    Kid A is a fantastic release , but I have always preferred the songs live . Much more punch to them . Im a bit biased though, as I was at the infamous Victoria Park show 20 years ago today. Amazing time.

    I'm definitely (maybe) old.
    Couldn’t agree more about being better live. I was 18 when Kid A came out. At the time I dismissed it as a bunch of noise, and ATYCLB took up most of my attention in the fall of 2000. But I really grew to appreciate, and then prefer, this side of Radiohead. Now The Bends just sounds a little too basic for my tastes.

    Finally saw them live in 2018 Columbus. Great show, great live band, I hope that wasn’t the last time I get to see them!!

  6. Radiohead released 4 albums (3 after Creep) before Muse released their first album, which by the way was pretty much a Radiohead rip-off.
  7. Originally posted by Zwervervriend:[..]

    Radiohead released 4 albums (3 after Creep) before Muse released their first album, which by the way was pretty much a Radiohead rip-off.
    Matt was just having a laugh here.
  8. IMHO, you can't go wrong with The Bends, OKC, Kid A, or In Rainbows. The other albums are great (I really liked AMSP) but these ones seemed to be their "best" or "most popular."

    The Bends is great if you prefer a more straight ahead rock approach whereas OKC added a little more textures to it all. It may be for nostalgic reasons, but OKC is still my favourite (from any band, probably).

    The thing that's great about Kid A is, to me anyway, every song is so different from the previous one. I mean how do you go from the title track to The National Anthem to How To Disappear Completely?????

    In Rainbows is great, too. I feel its release method overshadows the actual music. Conspiracies theories aside, it really does remind me a lot of OKC, just a little more subdued.

  9. Happy birthday to this
  10. Originally posted by RUMMY:IMHO, you can't go wrong with The Bends, OKC, Kid A, or In Rainbows. The other albums are great (I really liked AMSP) but these ones seemed to be their "best" or "most popular."

    The Bends is great if you prefer a more straight ahead rock approach whereas OKC added a little more textures to it all. It may be for nostalgic reasons, but OKC is still my favourite (from any band, probably).

    The thing that's great about Kid A is, to me anyway, every song is so different from the previous one. I mean how do you go from the title track to The National Anthem to How To Disappear Completely?????

    In Rainbows is great, too. I feel its release method overshadows the actual music. Conspiracies theories aside, it really does remind me a lot of OKC, just a little more subdued.
    I've always highly rated Hail to the Thief too. Myxomatosis is probably one of the best songs they've written.
  11. What the hell happened here? I just wanted to celebrate Kid A. Listened to it today, still amazes me what a departure it was from their early records. Can't decide between it and OKC. They're like Joshua Tree and AB. Also both bands were miserable after the massive success of their tours (extended until 89 for U2, 98 for Radiohead) and that's how we got AB and Kid A. Even the titles have similar words!
  12. HTTT has a lot of great tunes, for sure....There There, When I End and You Begin, 2+2=5, etc, etc. Heck, I even like The Gloaming (live anyway). However, I admit that I'm in the camp that the album is at least two songs too long. Don't know if I should start the debate about which ones should be removed, however!