1. The download of the 4K-stream from the first day it was available was about 5.5 GB, the download I did a few minutes ago was 7.9 GB.

    Right now I can't say something about the bitrate.

    The "new one" is a few minutes longer due to a new creditscreen ("The Joint Post Production"), some minutes of blackscreen and a repeat of the first sequences of the intro.
  2. 2020 Stream


    Général
    ID : 1 (0x1)
    Nom complet : E:\VIDEOS CONCERTS\U2\U2 - Berlin 2018\01-U2 Live Stream Live In Berlin 4K.mp4
    Format : MPEG-TS
    Taille du fichier : 5,25 Gio
    Durée : 2 h 23 min
    Type de débit global : Variable
    Débit global moyen : 5 233 kb/s
    FileExtension_Invalid : ts m2t m2s m4t m4s tmf ts tp trp ty

    Vidéo
    ID : 481 (0x1E1)
    ID de menu : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Profil du format : Main@L5.1
    Paramètres du format : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
    Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui
    Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 5 images
    Paramètres du format, GOP : M=3, N=48
    Identifiant du codec : 27
    Durée : 2 h 23 min
    Type de débit : Variable
    Débit maximum : 15,0 Mb/s
    Largeur : 3 840 pixels
    Hauteur : 2 160 pixels
    Format à l'écran : 16/9
    Images par seconde : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
    Espace de couleurs : YUV
    Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance : 4:2:0
    Profondeur des couleurs : 8 bits
    Type de balayage : Progressif
    Gamme de couleurs : Limited
    Coordonnées de chromaticité : BT.709
    Caractéristiques du transfert : BT.709
    Coefficients de la matrice : BT.709

    Audio
    ID : 482 (0x1E2)
    ID de menu : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AAC LC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Version du format : Version 4
    Type de muxing : ADTS
    Identifiant du codec : 15-2
    Durée : 2 h 23 min
    Type de débit : Variable
    Débit maximum : 709 kb/s
    Canaux : 6 canaux
    ChannelLayout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
    Echantillonnage : 48,0 kHz
    Images par seconde : 46,875 Im/s (1024 SPF)
    Mode de compression : Avec perte
    Délai par rapport Vidéo : 4 ms
    Langue : Anglais

    Menu
    ID : 480 (0x1E0)
    ID de menu : 1 (0x1)
    Durée : 2 h 23 min
    Liste : 481 (0x1E1) (AVC) / 482 (0x1E2) (AAC, Anglais)
    Langue : / Anglais
    Débit maximum : 16494800


    2021 Upgrade Stream


    Général
    Nom complet : E:\VIDEOS CONCERTS\U2\U2 - Berlin 2018\Berlin4K_upgrade.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Profil du format : Base Media / Version 2
    Identifiant du codec : mp42 (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41/mp42)
    Taille du fichier : 7,52 Gio
    Durée : 2 h 26 min
    Type de débit global : Variable
    Débit global moyen : 7 352 kb/s


    Vidéo
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Profil du format : High@L3
    Paramètres du format : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
    Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui
    Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 4 images
    Identifiant du codec : avc1
    Identifiant du codec/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Durée : 2 h 26 min
    Débit : 6 839 kb/s
    Débit nominal : 7 290 kb/s
    Débit maximum : 3 000 kb/s
    Largeur : 3 840 pixels
    Hauteur : 2 160 pixels
    Format à l'écran : 16/9
    Type d'images/s : Variable
    Images par seconde : 23,976 (23976/1000) Im/s
    Images/s mini : 23,974 Im/s
    Images/s maxi : 23,981 Im/s
    Espace de couleurs : YUV
    Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance : 4:2:0
    Profondeur des couleurs : 8 bits
    Type de balayage : Progressif
    Bits/(Pixel*Image) : 0.034
    Taille du flux : 6,99 Gio (93%)
    Bibliothèque utilisée : x264 core 148 r236 a01e339
    Paramètres d'encodage : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=54 / lookahead_threads=9 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=90 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=7290 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=7290 / vbv_bufsize=7290 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.41 / aq=1:1.00
    Codec configuration box : avcC

    Audio
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    Format : AAC LC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
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    Durée : 2 h 26 min
    Type de débit : Variable
    Débit : 508 kb/s
    Canaux : 6 canaux
    ChannelLayout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
    Echantillonnage : 48,0 kHz
    Images par seconde : 46,875 Im/s (1024 SPF)
    Mode de compression : Avec perte
    Taille du flux : 532 Mio (7%)
    Default : Oui
    AlternateGroup/String : 1
  3. The design is based on the traditional Irish Claddagh Ring, representing; love (heart), loyalty (crown) and friendship (hands).
  4. Originally posted by TheRefugee:The design is based on the traditional Irish Claddagh Ring, representing; love (heart), loyalty (crown) and friendship (hands).
    that explain why they look the same thnx
  5. Yeah but this looks like it's made by 4 years old kid...
  6. A little bit of vulnerability in art is a good thing.
  7. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    Yes they are giving us some downloads now, not the full set and not as soon as we subscribed and we know they have the songs ready but are choosing not to give us them. The Berlin dvd still doesn’t come into it when we talk about this years gift being available straight away and the value of the gift. You have chosen Berlin as an extra, this years gift is nothing to do with that. For anyone renewing as opposed to subscribing it is only this years gift that is relevant. I don’t understand your last point either, ‘If you want everything immediately download. And don’t subscribe’ makes absolutely zero sense. The tracks aren’t available immediately, we still don’t have the full set of downloads for a 3 year old show. I’ve paid for my subscription in full they have the downloads ready but they only give us 6 tracks (by accident only really 3) at this stage.


    Its called build up. I listened to first three songs, sounds great. I can wait for the CD.

    The full Apollo show can be obtained online, and has been for years. Hence download and no waiting. 🤷

    On the other hand since we've no idea when the Berlin DVD will be available in retail, this is the only option (i dont download official U2 DVDs). Apollo is just the icing on the cake for me.
  8. Originally posted by muzika:[..]


    Its called build up. I listened to first three songs, sounds great. I can wait for the CD.

    The full Apollo show can be obtained online, and has been for years. Hence download and no waiting. 🤷

    On the other hand since we've no idea when the Berlin DVD will be available in retail, this is the only option (i dont download official U2 DVDs). Apollo is just the icing on the cake for me.
    Berlin will not be available anywhere for purchase as it would have been by now, on tv they only put on from Elevation till the end.
  9. I remain hopeful...but just in case, i subscribed.

    The real question is where is JT30 DVD ?
  10. Originally posted by muzika:[..]


    Its called build up. I listened to first three songs, sounds great. I can wait for the CD.

    The full Apollo show can be obtained online, and has been for years. Hence download and no waiting. 🤷

    On the other hand since we've no idea when the Berlin DVD will be available in retail, this is the only option (i dont download official U2 DVDs). Apollo is just the icing on the cake for me.
    It’s called a waste of time. Build up that nobody wants, if you ask subscribers whether they’d want the downloads all at once or spread out the vast majority would pick all at once. And I know the unofficial download has been available. I’ve had it for years but I’ve paid for the official downloads which will be better and that is what I want and that is what the fans want and seeing as it’s a fan club you’d think it would make sense to give the fans what they want. The Berlin dvd won’t be available in retail but it still was last years gift and whilst it’s a nice bonus for people that didn’t subscribe last year it is of no significance to those of us who renewed and already have the gift and it’s immediate availability doesn’t make the lack of immediate downloads for the Apollo set any more reasonable or logical.