Originally posted by melon51:@kris_smith87 & @Release3,
Had a quick go at a Seque mix of Love Is All We Have Left into Streets and made them more 'vocal-centric' (studio versions)
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Feel free to not like it, but it gives you an idea
Originally posted by melon51:[..]
Edited both to make the vocals more prominent, but it's funny that you can hear that there's an enormous delay on Bono's vocals creating some sort of 'mountain echo' effect. Think they did it by doubling on a separate track with effects.
So Rick Beato is right that Bono never doubles his vocals, but I'm pretty sure Lanois did double them for him on this track
Originally posted by muzika:[..]
Discotheque , EBTTRT, CRUMBS ....all multiple Bono vocals.
Originally posted by melon51:Read back the Summer Of Love discussion and the reactions were interesting I think. There's a difference between 'stealing' grooves uncredited and just having a producer that happens to be in a band and has a demo that you use to build your own idea of a 'song' around. That's great I think, all major pop hits are collaborative efforts but you'll see the performing artist.
Most blatant stealing U2 did imo was during the Passengers/POP years. Do You Feel Loved and Disqotheque's groove(s) were pretty much directly lifted from uncredited tracks (Alien Groove Nation / Stone Roses). The whole of Mysterious Ways is built around the Funky Drummer beat (as were a lot of songs in the early 90's)
Originally posted by pleasegone:And now, my reassessment of SOE, and I'll throw in my current album rankings for fun:
1 Achtung
2 Joshua
3 Pop
4 Rattle
5 War
6 Zooropa
7 Un4get Fire
8 All That You Can't
9 How To Dismantle
10 No Line
11 Boy
12 Songs Of Experience
13 October
14 Songs Of Ignorance
"Love Is All We Have Left" U2 had to join the ever growing list of older artists who absolutely had to trend follow by using auto tune. No possible way they would trust their inner creatviity. Andy set the Bar REALLY LOW on this one. What would have been an acceptable song just screams an old washed up band screaming for relevance and attention. Sad. Because it's not a bad album.
"Lights of Home" really nice song here. It has held up well for me in the god knows how many years it has been for SOE now.
"You're the Best Thing About Me" Decent song weakened by Teddy Bear Tedders production. Nothing like "Those Meddling Young Producers." Still, it's kinda cactchy and a fun listen.
"Get Out of Your Own Way" See above, decent, Kendrick Lamar doesn't seem to belong in the outro/intro to Soul, but it is what it is.
"American Soul" How many times can U2 copy old songs, or should I say remake? With this, and 13, they are really stretching here. Never like to see a brilliant artist running out of ideas, but it happens to them all, Phil Collins disease is part of being a songwriter, just ask AC/DC. But I love Collins with and without Genesis, but even Collins did not do this Still, Glatsoncano Volcanbury, uh err NO! It's American Soul. Again Kendrick Lamar doesn't really belong in the start unless it's only in the end of Way. Hard to believe they couldn't just start from scratch to put out another rocker instead of a recycled riff. As much as I love their cheesy pop side, their rock roots are nice to hear from once and a while sometimes.
"Summer of Love" Very good song, nothing groundbreaking. Not quite as interesting as Lights, but decent album track
"Red Flag Day" The best song so far, some of the sound harkens back to the War period a bit. One of the few songs I would skip to if I only had a few minutes to listen to
"The Showman (Little More Better)" Another song I really enjoy that seems to get a lot of hate around here. It is the kind of self-deprecating humor I share with Bono, about the only thing we have in common other than I can't really play guitar either. This is a different song. U2 can get Phil Collins Disease as I mentioned above, and this is them sorta breaking out into something a little different. I like that.
"The Little Things That Give You Away" A late career masterpiece for sure. Sad for me, is I go to 3 USA Joshua Tree 2017 shows, and they play it at the show before my first, and the first show after my last, but at none of the shows I am at. It has the slow simmering affect "Bad" has. Not quite as great, but maybe along with "Magnificent" the two best songs from U2 since 2005 for sure.
"Landlady" Another different sounding thing, odd intro. Above average song that I will sometimes skip, but usually do not.
"The Blackout" On my CD, I have this in the front. It falls short of being the great late career rocker a lot of us want, but it's still an interestng song with some cheesy lyrics about politics. Not sure democracy is flat on it's back, Steve! Then again, I live in a country where a reality TV star who had over a billion dollars somehow has more than one casino go bankrupt(not easy to do), and becomes President. Oh, I'm supposed to be reviewing the song...a nice attempt, and I like it, and the video version is even better, which should have been an audio bonus track.
"Love Is Bigger Than Anything in Its Way" Perhaps the most overcalcuated U2 attempt at a stadium anthem, and while it is not an awful song by any means, it just sounds so overblown,overproduced and cheesy, if this was played for me in 1983 I never would have guessed it was U2. Even a stripped down hard rock version of this would not be that great, but hard to believe they have like 22 remixes of this. Really? Is there a reason that many mixes of a song that did not chart that well?
"13 (There Is a Light)" Even though this is ok, they may as well have just put a middle section in with the Glatsonbury Volcano That Resides In American Soul Guitar. There is a decent song for someone that should have been left off the album, and this is one of them.
"Ordinary Love" (Extraordinary Mix) Like most U2 remixes, this one is dreadful. They may as well remix all of TUF, and let Karo Syrup remix MLK with a Loop of the Fish Out Of Water Running To Stand Still mix.
"Book of Your Heart" Next to "The Little Things." This is the should have been album masterpiece. Sure, not a perfect song, but like the SOI extras, "Ballroom" and "Hands," better than nearly everything else on the album. Did Set The Bar Low really produce this? Guess he forgot to turn on the auto tune for this, and the production is in the vein of Eno/Lanois but I would have changed a few things, but man, is this a good song or what? Maybe Bono and Edge should read my "Tracklistings For Dummies" manuel where I explain that putting the best songs on an album far outweighs every single song blending in with the others.
"Lights of Home" (St Peter's String Version) Honestly, I want to like this version, but the strings don't make the songs better, and I have not even listened to this since maybe April of 2021 or so.
"You're the Best Thing About Me" (U2 vs. Kygo) Another crap remix from a band that has more remixes than most dance artists. Good thing I don't complian too much about remixes!
"The Blackout" (Jacknife Lee Remix) One of the better U2 remixes, which coming from me is more of a backhanded compliment, but a remix I tolerate is a strange thing, despite it being too repetitve. Probably been better if more of the regular mix and vocal were included, but oh well. Good thing this was a short post.
Originally posted by pleasegone:And now, my reassessment of SOE, and I'll throw in my current album rankings for fun:
1 Achtung
2 Joshua
3 Pop
4 Rattle
5 War
6 Zooropa
7 Un4get Fire
8 All That You Can't
9 How To Dismantle
10 No Line
11 Boy
12 Songs Of Experience
13 October
14 Songs Of Ignorance
"Love Is All We Have Left" U2 had to join the ever growing list of older artists who absolutely had to trend follow by using auto tune. No possible way they would trust their inner creatviity. Andy set the Bar REALLY LOW on this one. What would have been an acceptable song just screams an old washed up band screaming for relevance and attention. Sad. Because it's not a bad album.
"Lights of Home" really nice song here. It has held up well for me in the god knows how many years it has been for SOE now.
"You're the Best Thing About Me" Decent song weakened by Teddy Bear Tedders production. Nothing like "Those Meddling Young Producers." Still, it's kinda cactchy and a fun listen.
"Get Out of Your Own Way" See above, decent, Kendrick Lamar doesn't seem to belong in the outro/intro to Soul, but it is what it is.
"American Soul" How many times can U2 copy old songs, or should I say remake? With this, and 13, they are really stretching here. Never like to see a brilliant artist running out of ideas, but it happens to them all, Phil Collins disease is part of being a songwriter, just ask AC/DC. But I love Collins with and without Genesis, but even Collins did not do this Still, Glatsoncano Volcanbury, uh err NO! It's American Soul. Again Kendrick Lamar doesn't really belong in the start unless it's only in the end of Way. Hard to believe they couldn't just start from scratch to put out another rocker instead of a recycled riff. As much as I love their cheesy pop side, their rock roots are nice to hear from once and a while sometimes.
"Summer of Love" Very good song, nothing groundbreaking. Not quite as interesting as Lights, but decent album track
"Red Flag Day" The best song so far, some of the sound harkens back to the War period a bit. One of the few songs I would skip to if I only had a few minutes to listen to
"The Showman (Little More Better)" Another song I really enjoy that seems to get a lot of hate around here. It is the kind of self-deprecating humor I share with Bono, about the only thing we have in common other than I can't really play guitar either. This is a different song. U2 can get Phil Collins Disease as I mentioned above, and this is them sorta breaking out into something a little different. I like that.
"The Little Things That Give You Away" A late career masterpiece for sure. Sad for me, is I go to 3 USA Joshua Tree 2017 shows, and they play it at the show before my first, and the first show after my last, but at none of the shows I am at. It has the slow simmering affect "Bad" has. Not quite as great, but maybe along with "Magnificent" the two best songs from U2 since 2005 for sure.
"Landlady" Another different sounding thing, odd intro. Above average song that I will sometimes skip, but usually do not.
"The Blackout" On my CD, I have this in the front. It falls short of being the great late career rocker a lot of us want, but it's still an interestng song with some cheesy lyrics about politics. Not sure democracy is flat on it's back, Steve! Then again, I live in a country where a reality TV star who had over a billion dollars somehow has more than one casino go bankrupt(not easy to do), and becomes President. Oh, I'm supposed to be reviewing the song...a nice attempt, and I like it, and the video version is even better, which should have been an audio bonus track.
"Love Is Bigger Than Anything in Its Way" Perhaps the most overcalcuated U2 attempt at a stadium anthem, and while it is not an awful song by any means, it just sounds so overblown,overproduced and cheesy, if this was played for me in 1983 I never would have guessed it was U2. Even a stripped down hard rock version of this would not be that great, but hard to believe they have like 22 remixes of this. Really? Is there a reason that many mixes of a song that did not chart that well?
"13 (There Is a Light)" Even though this is ok, they may as well have just put a middle section in with the Glatsonbury Volcano That Resides In American Soul Guitar. There is a decent song for someone that should have been left off the album, and this is one of them.
"Ordinary Love" (Extraordinary Mix) Like most U2 remixes, this one is dreadful. They may as well remix all of TUF, and let Karo Syrup remix MLK with a Loop of the Fish Out Of Water Running To Stand Still mix.
"Book of Your Heart" Next to "The Little Things." This is the should have been album masterpiece. Sure, not a perfect song, but like the SOI extras, "Ballroom" and "Hands," better than nearly everything else on the album. Did Set The Bar Low really produce this? Guess he forgot to turn on the auto tune for this, and the production is in the vein of Eno/Lanois but I would have changed a few things, but man, is this a good song or what? Maybe Bono and Edge should read my "Tracklistings For Dummies" manuel where I explain that putting the best songs on an album far outweighs every single song blending in with the others.
"Lights of Home" (St Peter's String Version) Honestly, I want to like this version, but the strings don't make the songs better, and I have not even listened to this since maybe April of 2021 or so.
"You're the Best Thing About Me" (U2 vs. Kygo) Another crap remix from a band that has more remixes than most dance artists. Good thing I don't complian too much about remixes!
"The Blackout" (Jacknife Lee Remix) One of the better U2 remixes, which coming from me is more of a backhanded compliment, but a remix I tolerate is a strange thing, despite it being too repetitve. Probably been better if more of the regular mix and vocal were included, but oh well. Good thing this was a short post.