1. There is no way in a million years if U2 had released only the strings version of lights of home they would have had to credit Haim. The version on the album with the obvious sampled bit has done Haim a favour with allowing them to be credited in a U2 song, it certainly hasn’t done u2 any favours based on the feedback even though for me personally the album version is still great.
  2. Well the credit isn’t up for debate, that’s just professional courtesy (and probably legally responsible) from the band. I just don’t see how it has been a favour to Haim. What have they gained from being credited by U2?
  3. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    There is no way in a million years if U2 had released only the strings version of lights of home they would have had to credit Haim. The version on the album with the obvious sampled bit has done Haim a favour with allowing them to be credited in a U2 song, it certainly hasn’t done u2 any favours based on the feedback even though for me personally the album version is still great.
    If we are talking about social cred, Haim did U2 a favour!
  4. Originally posted by iTim:Well the credit isn’t up for debate, that’s just professional courtesy (and probably legally responsible) from the band. I just don’t see how it has been a favour to Haim. What have they gained from being credited by U2?
    It is up for debate if they had went with a different version that sounds nothing like the Haim song. What have a relatively small band like Haim gained from being credited by U2? Money, a bit more publicity, credit from fellow artists/musicians more than likely. Maybe none of that on a massive scale but I can imagine it’s a pretty big deal to them that U2 wanted to sample their work. I think you’re massively underestimating the reputation of U2 if you can’t see that. Even Scarlett Johansson when she was doing that interview with Bono recently for sing 2 looked up to him, you could see it in her eyes she was in awe of him and this is a multi millionaire film star.
  5. It’s arguable that the association would do more harm than good to Haim as U2 would be regarded as very uncool and irrelevant in the eyes of the Pitchfork cognoscenti.
    Although Bono did Danielle Haim a favour by recommending a doctor and sending her a care package when she lost her voice in Ireland. So that was nice and a tangible benefit to Haim from the association!
  6. Originally posted by TheRefugee:It’s arguable that the association would do more harm than good to Haim as U2 would be regarded as very uncool and irrelevant in the eyes of the Pitchfork cognoscenti.
    Although Bono did Danielle Haim a favour by recommending a doctor and sending her a care package when she lost her voice in Ireland. So that was nice and a tangible benefit to Haim from the association!
    I think any critic or music fan worth their salt would be able to acknowledge what a big deal it is for a band like U2 to ask to sample their work. Whether they like the finished article or not is a different matter but if someone couldn’t at least acknowledge that being picked out by musicians who are amongst the best in their generation at the very least is a huge deal then they aren’t worth listening to.
  7. I haven’t seen any evidence of lack of gratitude or acknowledgement by Haim. As my doctor anecdote illustrates, relations between the two bands is very good. In fact Haim contacted Bono asking him to guest vocal on a track on their last album. So reciprocity and good vibes. So ease up on the Haim sisters a little.
  8. Originally posted by TheRefugee:I haven’t seen any evidence of lack of gratitude or acknowledgement by Haim. As my doctor anecdote illustrates, relations between the two bands is very good. In fact Haim contacted Bono asking him to guest vocal on a track on their last album. So reciprocity and good vibes. So ease up on the Haim sisters a little.
    I’m not criticising Haim at all, I don’t know where you got that impression. Quite liked their song ‘Don’t save me’ and I’m sure at least one other from their first album but haven’t heard much else. I’m just saying U2 are a much bigger band and maybe now things are a bit more mutual but I reckon when U2 first reached out Haim would have felt extremely grateful and honoured and with the way Bono has been seen to act with other artists and other celebrities in general in fact he’s probably put them at ease and opened up a line of communication with them. I think that’s great. All I’m saying is for people who don’t like sampling etc that lights of home could have been released as the strings version only which more people seem to like and I don’t think they would have had to credit Haim at all so any issue with sampling isn’t really relevant imo.
  9. U2 made Haim!!!
  10. Nobody is underestimating U2’s reputation, nobody is denying that the Haim trio appreciated the credit. I just think the benefits are being somewhat overstated for what is actually quite an obscure contribution. Haim were doing perfectly well for themselves before SOE and would have continued to do so had they not been credited by U2. I’ve no doubt it was a cool thing for Haim and it’s great that U2 reached out and formed a connection to a band they clearly must already respect. I just don’t see any of it as a favour.
  11. And I certainly doubt that U2 would regard it as a favour to Haim.