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  1. I rarely ever visit U2.com. I joined it for the Vertigo pre-sale and will probably do so again, but I never actually use the site itself. Usually official band sites are pretty lame (although this one looks cool because it lets you stream all their music and videos).

    But I checked today for the heck of it, and realized that every Vertigo Tour date is listed off by one from the actual date! They're all listed a day too early.

    I find it funny how fans who get paid no money do a much better job, at least in terms of accuracy, that's no question. I guess that's the whole idea behind the "labor of love," because fans take it way more seriously (maybe too seriously )...

    It's probably also why several pieces of Open Source software have already destroyed their mass-produced competitors, b/c it's people who love to write quality code for fun in their spare time (Firefox vs. Internet Explorer? Anyone? Anyone?)
  2. Originally posted by u2met86(...)But I checked today for the heck of it, and realized that every Vertigo Tour date is listed off by one from the actual date! They're all listed a day too early.(...)
    I will never pay for u2.com, they suck. I didn't know the problem of he dates, but I knwe that there are usual problems with the videos and so. They suck

    Viva U2vertigotour.com!!
  3. It was the first site from U2 i visited because it's the official one but after a few days, the site was already boring...
    You can see lyrics, the albums and singles and a news topic from the band but just maybe once in 5 days...
    And then i saw the price to join for downloads
    So i looked again, found this site and never left

    I don't know about the tour dates cause i saw everything was already sold out so i didn't check further
  4. That's pretty strange, I'm sure it's kind of a technical error, because it was always quite accurate. However, I believe that u2-vertigo-tour.com is the most accurate one.

    I'm a premium member of U2.com, don't know why, but it's fine to me
  5. Well, I think u2.com is to be considered not as a fanclub, 'cause as a fanclub it sucks of course. It has to be considered the most important reference point for U2 fans, because what you find in there and what you know by u2.com is just something very close to U2 themselves, as it's their Official Web-site!

    So we need both u2.com (for official information) and a fanclub (for all the other things). And The Fanclub is U2START!

  6. That's why I was surprised. You'd think U2.com would be the most accurate. However, I believe that fansites will be more accurate, because if we know another fan is running the site, we treat them differently than if we believe it's a company running the site.

    For example: I spotted a U2.com error. Who do I tell? Ummm, not sure. So it stays.
    Vs: U2start.com error. Someone posts up here on the forum, "hey, Remy, the setlist is wrong for XXXX-XX-XX. They didn't play "40" they only snippeted." I dunno, something like that, but we don't hesitate to open our mouths when we see something like that, so it's more self-correcting, sort of like Wikipedia.

    And yes, www.u2-vertigo-tour.com is absolutely amazing. The layout is perfect and detailed information is very clear. I wish that www.u2tours.com would integrate all its fan reviews & photos onto U2-Vertigo-Tour, it would be the best!

    Correction: In most areas of the website, U2's Vertigo Tour dates are accurate. However, if you click on "Tours" > "Other Tours" and click on any leg of the Vertigo Tour, you'll get the off-by-one error:

    Vertigo//2005 Tour (1st Leg) US


    //27.03.2005 San Diego, CA Sports Arena
    //29.03.2005 San Diego, CA Sports Arena
    //31.03.2005 Anaheim, CA Arrowhead Pond
    //01.04.2005 Anaheim, CA Arrowhead Pond
    //04.04.2005 Los Angeles, CA Staples Center
    //05.04.2005 Los Angeles, CA Staples Center
    //08.04.2005 San Jose, CA HP Pavilion
    //09.04.2005 San Jose, CA HP Pavilion
    //13.04.2005 Phoenix, AZ Glendale Arena
    //14.04.2005 Phoenix, AZ Glendale Arena
    //19.04.2005 Denver, CO Pepsi Center
    //20.04.2005 Denver, CO Pepsi Center
    //23.04.2005 Seattle, WA Key Arena
    //24.04.2005 Seattle, WA Key Arena
    //27.04.2005 Vancouver, BC General Motors Place
    //28.04.2005 Vancouver, BC General Motors Place
    //06.05.2005 Chicago, IL United Center
    //08.05.2005 Chicago, IL United Center
    //09.05.2005 Chicago, IL United Center
    //11.05.2005 Chicago, IL United Center
    //13.05.2005 Philadelphia, PA Wachovia Center
    //16.05.2005 East Rutherford, NJ Continental Airlines Arena
    //17.05.2005 East Rutherford, NJ Continental Airlines Arena
    //20.05.2005 New York, NY Madison Square Gardens
    //21.05.2005 Philadelphia, PA Wachovia Center
    //23.05.2005 Boston, MA Fleet Center
    //25.05.2005 Boston, MA Fleet Center
    //27.05.2005 Boston, MA Fleet Center

    Vertigo//2005 Tour (2nd Leg) Europe


    //09.06.2005 Brussels, Belgium King Baudouin Stadium
    //11.06.2005 Gelsenkirchen, Germany Schalke Stadium
    //13.06.2005 Manchester, UK City of Manchester Stadium
    //14.06.2005 Manchester, UK City Of Manchester Stadium
    //17.06.2005 London, UK Twickenham Stadium
    //18.06.2005 London, UK Twickenham Stadium
    //20.06.2005 Glasgow, UK Hampden Park
    //23.06.2005 Dublin, Ireland Croke Park
    //24.06.2005 Dublin, Ireland Croke Park
    //28.06.2005 Cardiff, UK Millenium Stadium
    //01.07.2005 Vienna, Austria Ernst Happel Stadium
    //04.07.2005 Katowice, Poland Slaski Stadium
    //06.07.2005 Berlin, Germany Olympic Stadium
    //08.07.2005 Paris, France Stade de France
    //09.07.2005 Paris, France Stade De France
    //10.07.2005 Zurich, Switzerland Letzigrund Stadium
    //12.07.2005 Amsterdam, Holland Arena
    //14.07.2005 Amsterdam, Holland Arena
    //15.07.2005 Amsterdam, Holland Amsterdam Arena
    //17.07.2005 Zurich, Switzerland Leitzigrund Stadium
    //19.07.2005 Milan, Italy San Siro
    //20.07.2005 Milan, Italy San Siro
    //22.07.2005 Rome, Italy Olympic Stadium
    //26.07.2005 Oslo, Norway Vallehovin Stadium
    //28.07.2005 Gothenburg, Sweden Ullevi Stadium
    //30.07.2005 Copenhagen, Denmark Parken
    //02.08.2005 Munich, Germany Olympic Stadium
    //04.08.2005 Nice, France Parc des Sports Charles Ehrmann
    //06.08.2005 Barcelona, Spain Camp Nou
    //08.08.2005 San Sebastian, Spain -
    //10.08.2005 Madrid, Spain Estadio Vicente Calderon
    //13.08.2005 Lisbon, Portugal Alvalade

    Vertigo//2005 Tour (3rd Leg) US


    //26.06.2005 Dublin, Ireland Croke Park
    //11.09.2005 Toronto, Ontario Air Canada Center
    //13.09.2005 Toronto, Ontario Air Canada Center
    //15.09.2005 Toronto, Ontario Air Canada Center
    //16.09.2005 Toronto, Ontario Air Canada Center
    //19.09.2005 Chicago, IL United Center
    //20.09.2005 Chicago, IL United Centre
    //22.09.2005 Minneapolis, MN Target Center
    //24.09.2005 Milwaukee, WI Bradley Center
    //02.10.2005 Boston, MA Fleet Center
    //03.10.2005 Boston, MA Fleet Center
    //06.10.2005 New York, NY Madison Square Gardens
    //07.10.2005 New York, NY Madison Square Gardens
    //09.10.2005 New York, NY Madison Square Gardens
    //10.10.2005 New York, NY Madison Square Gardens
    //13.10.2005 New York, NY Madison Square Gardens
    //15.10.2005 Philadelphia, PA Wachovia Center
    //16.10.2005 Philadelphia, PA Wachovia Center
    //18.10.2005 Washington, DC DC MCI Center
    //19.10.2005 Washington, DC DC MCI Center
    //21.10.2005 Pittsburgh, PA Mellon Arena
    //23.10.2005 Detroit, MI Palace of Auburn Hills
    //24.10.2005 Detroit, MI Palace of Auburn Hills
    //27.10.2005 Houston, TX Toyota Center
    //28.10.2005 Dallas, TX American Airlines Center
    //31.10.2005 Los Angeles, CA Staples Center
    //01.11.2005 Los Angeles, CA Staples Center
    //03.11.2005 Las Vegas, NV MGM Grand
    //07.11.2005 San Francisco, CA Oakland Arena
    //08.11.2005 San Francisco, CA Oakland Arena
    //12.11.2005 Miami, FL American Airlines Arena
    //13.11.2005 Miami, FL American Airlines Arena
    //15.11.2005 Tampa, FL St. Pete Times Forum
    //17.11.2005 Atlanta, GA Philips Arena
    //18.11.2005 Atlanta, GA Philips Arena
    //20.11.2005 New York, NY Madison Square Gardens
    //21.11.2005 New York, NY Madison Square Gardens
    //24.11.2005 Ottawa, ON Corel Centre
    //25.11.2005 Montreal, QC Bell Centre
    //27.11.2005 Montreal, QC Bell Centre
    //03.12.2005 Boston, MA TD Banknorth Garden
    //04.12.2005 Boston, MA TD Banknorth Garden
    //06.12.2005 Hartford, CT Civic Center
    //08.12.2005 Buffalo, NY HSBC Arena
    //09.12.2005 Cleveland, OH Gund Arena
    //11.12.2005 Charlotte, NC New Charlotte Arena
    //13.12.2005 St. Louis, MO Savvis Center
    //14.12.2005 Omaha, NE Qwest Center
    //16.12.2005 Salt Lake City, UT Delta Center
    //18.12.2005 Portland, OR Rose Garden

    //11.02.2006 Monterrey, Mexico Estadio Tecnológico
    //14.02.2006 Mexico City, Mexico Estadio Azteca
    //15.02.2006 Mexico City, Mexico Estadio Azteca
    //19.02.2006 Sao Paulo, Brazil Morumbi Stadium
    //20.02.2006 Sao Paulo, Brazil Morumbi Stadium
    //25.02.2006 Santiago, Chile Nacional Stadium
    //28.02.2006 Buenos Aires, Argentina River Plate Stadium
    //01.03.2006 Buenos Aires, Argentina River Plate Stadium
    //06.11.2006 Brisbane, Australia QSAC Stadium
    //09.11.2006 Sydney, Australia Telstra Stadium
    //10.11.2006 Sydney, Australia Telstra Stadium
    //12.11.2006 Sydney, Australia Telstra Stadium
    //15.11.2006 Adelaide, Australia AAMI Stadium
    //17.11.2006 Melbourne, Australia Telstra Dome
    //18.11.2006 Melbourne, Australia Telstra Dome
    //23.11.2006 Auckland, New Zealand Ericsson Stadium
    //24.11.2006 Auckland, New Zealand Ericsson Stadium
    //28.11.2006 Tokyo, Japan Saitama Super Arena
    //29.11.2006 Tokyo, Japan Saitama Super Arena
    //03.12.2006 Tokyo, Japan Saitama Super Arena
    //08.12.2006 Honolulu, Hawaii Aloha Stadium
  7. Originally posted by u2met86That's why I was surprised. You'd think U2.com would be the most accurate. However, I believe that fansites will be more accurate, because if we know another fan is running the site, we treat them differently than if we believe it's a company running the site.

    For example: I spotted a U2.com error. Who do I tell? Ummm, not sure. So it stays.
    Vs: U2start.com error. Someone posts up here on the forum, "hey, Remy, the setlist is wrong for XXXX-XX-XX. They didn't play "40" they only snippeted." I dunno, something like that, but we don't hesitate to open our mouths when we see something like that, so it's more self-correcting, sort of like Wikipedia.


    I agree with your analysis. But I also think that it's more probable that a fansite give wrong information than u2.com do (don't know if it's the correct syntactical form...).