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  1. From what you've said, it sounds like Melbourne's requirements are a little unreasonable. Will the numbers even be that good once a vaccine is in widespread circulation?
  2. I reckon it’s nearly impossible to be COVID free after a second wave until there is a vaccine that’s efficient enough to control it. Our state premier knows he has stuffed up with the handling of the virus mid year and he’s trying to save his political career by playing safe and keeping everyone locked up, so the numbers look good for him. There are definitely other ways to go about controlling the virus without a lockdown, with our current numbers. But he is too stubborn and arrogant to change his views. He is still fear mongering that this is still a deadly virus (which it is) but now we have the science to understand it more and treat patients better, that we can lower mortality rate.
  3. Originally posted by podiumboy:From what you've said, it sounds like Melbourne's requirements are a little unreasonable. Will the numbers even be that good once a vaccine is in widespread circulation?
    Isn't the difference that some countries are still trying to keep the virus out completely? Europe/US are way beyond that point and are just trying to mitigate the Healthcare load vs. the economic/social/psychological impact?

    In Holland the 'positive-tested' numbers have really gone up the last month, with new measures in place. Difference though is that we now widely test (100k people a week) whereas in the spring you'd only get tested upon hospital admission. Up until now the hospital numbers are far behind (probably 1/10th) of the peak in the spring. So there's an interesting puzzle to be made here..
  4. Unfortunately the UK the hospital numbers are the same now as they were when we went into the first full national lockdown in late March 2020. So our trajectory does not look good, although the rate of increase is not as fast (yet). 13,000 cases a day at the moment. The cases in this 2nd wave started in teh young but are moving up the age ranges as (unfortunately) expected. Treatments and knoweldge are better this time, but we know what to expect, the die is cast.
  5. Fast forward to spring please. I cba.
  6. Originally posted by melon51:[..]
    Isn't the difference that some countries are still trying to keep the virus out completely? Europe/US are way beyond that point and are just trying to mitigate the Healthcare load vs. the economic/social/psychological impact?

    In Holland the 'positive-tested' numbers have really gone up the last month, with new measures in place. Difference though is that we now widely test (100k people a week) whereas in the spring you'd only get tested upon hospital admission. Up until now the hospital numbers are far behind (probably 1/10th) of the peak in the spring. So there's an interesting puzzle to be made here..
    Have to correct myself a little as hospital numbers also seem to be rising as well as positive tests (almost 7K positive yesterday in NL)
  7. England going into Lockdown 2 tonight.
  8. So far my mom, my brother, my best friend, and practically all my wife's family has had covid at one point. They are recovering now, thankfully, but still with side effects like allergies, fatigue, etc. In Mexico the president keeps saying that masks are "optional" and that they have "many unwanted side effects" (he's a populist idiot), so to no one's surprise, we're now in 4th place for deaths.
  9. Last day before Lockdown II here in London.....squeezed in a Gym session before that shuts. A long 4 weeks ahead
  10. Meanwhile I squeezed in a last curry at the Indian before that shuts
  11. I did exactly the same before lockdown 1 back in the day and the same again before our new local lockdown started a few weeks ago.
  12. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]
    I did exactly the same before lockdown 1 back in the day and the same again before our new local lockdown started a few weeks ago.
    Up here in the North all takeaways remained open throughout,needless to say were now all fat b*stards 😆