1. Originally posted by bobplaysthedrums:[..]

    I don't know if these are fully correct, but I'm pretty sure that "Eight seventeen" is actually "Age seventeen"

    I also hear:

    *" Lipstick trace" instead of "Lipstick case"
    "A love song" instead of "I Love you so"
    "The worst, the curse" instead of "The worse, the curse"


    in my opinion:
    "Eight seventeen"/"Age seventeen" ---> "A-17" .. that might be the police (?) code for suicide
    "A love song"/"I Love you so" ---> "alone in this song"
  2. Originally posted by clover68:[..]

    in my opinion:
    "Eight seventeen"/"Age seventeen" ---> "A-17" .. that might be the police (?) code for suicide
    "A love song"/"I Love you so" ---> "alone in this song"


    Code 17 can be for: lost person aided or an escort. It also can refer to the A17 Road in the Isle Of Man.
  3. Originally posted by clover68:[..]

    in my opinion:
    "Eight seventeen"/"Age seventeen" ---> "A-17" .. that might be the police (?) code for suicide
    "A love song"/"I Love you so" ---> "alone in this song"


    I think Age 17 makes more sense than 8-17 or A-17 since he just just talked about "your lipstick trace". I don't know which one of "A love song", "I love you so" or "alone in this song" is more correct.
  4. i don't think the character described in the song can be 17 years old .. i hope at least


  5. I know it's creepy, but Bono can be at times. He still dances with girls who are more than half his age at concerts.
  6. Originally posted by bobplaysthedrums:[..]

    I think Age 17 makes more sense than 8-17 or A-17 since he just just talked about "your lipstick trace". I don't know which one of "A love song", "I love you so" or "alone in this song" is more correct.


    I still think it's A-17, for the reason of a code 17 is lost person aided and this is a person who is doing some kind of drug in a state of depression.
  7. me too
    these verses, for instance, make me think he's older
    "I've been in every black hole at the altar of the dark star"
    "I was punching in the numbers at the ATM machine"
  8. MOS is my fav u2 song of ever!!! very powerful.


  9. It's not my favourite U2 song, but it's by far their best since One. Both of these songs are so powerful, emotional and written so well.
  10. Originally posted by clover68:me too
    these verses, for instance, make me think he's older
    "I've been in every black hole at the altar of the dark star"
    "I was punching in the numbers at the ATM machine"


    I think that the 17 year old is a different character.


  11. The person that finally rescues this particular character from the altar of the dark star - a later addition, quite likely.

    It's a hell of a story.
  12. i think that the one who rescues the character of the song is the Unknown Caller.
    i always thought one is the sequel of the other in the storyline