Originally posted by felix2:[..]
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U2 and Universal.
Originally posted by felix2:[..]
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U2 and Universal.
Originally posted by u2wanderer1:[..]
Acoustic and reimagined. Both of those things.
Originally posted by felix2:[..]
Newly interpreted or reinterpreted or reimagined has nothing to do with the acoustics per se in music. With acoustics, nothing is amplified, but comes from the instruments with the resonance or from the resonance body, or through the sound.
Originally posted by felix2:[..]
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U2 and Universal.
Originally posted by ViniedgeU2:[..]
Checkmate!
Originally posted by felix2:I have first hear of all time the snippet and today on YT. And everyone can hear an electric guitar at 2:37. Then why is u2 selling it as an acoustic album when it isn't? I still do not understand.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gKcPcY8vLT8
Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]
I'm not really seeing a whole lot of "derogatory" language levied at the band in this thread. "Intense criticism"? Definitely. But nothing I would consider "derogatory". The only thing I can find in the recent pages is someone comparing listening to this to being waterboarded - but I see that as cheeky and kind of hilarious, not derogatory. You'll probably find far worse criticism in the inevitable Pitchfork review of this album.
I'll try to speak for myself as much as I can here, as I've been someone in this thread voicing criticism.
People criticize things as intensely as they praise/love them. I would say that just comes with the territory of being passionate about something. Sure, with most things people can just shrug it off and move on with their day. But as we all know, the people on this website are so passionate about their fandom for this band that they can't simply shrug it off and move on. We can't just walk away and say "guess U2 isn't for me anymore, ah well." We love this band so much and feel the need to voice our frustration, because we feel passionate about it. We want to see this band doing the things that we feel we know they're capable of (and for many of us, that "capability" can be seen as recently as in the b-sides of their more recent records).
Yes, that notion is probably unrealistic, irrational, and perhaps a waste of time. Maybe all of us who haven't been satisfied with the output of this band for a little while now are wasting our time being here, or even thinking about this band. I can tell you that personally, I don't listen to U2 all that much anymore. That said, I'll always be interested in checking out anything new they have coming out, I'll always go see them when they go on tour, and I'll always return to this forum to discuss those things.
And on that note, this is a discussion forum. For as many posts as I see lambasting this release (or what we've heard of it so far), I see just as many posts lambasting the people who are doing the criticizing.
So, if we don't like something that a band we've loved is doing, we should just keep our thoughts to ourselves and not post here among our fellow fans? Do you really want andiscussion forumecho chamber full of nothing but blowing smoke? Sounds awfully boring to me.
Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with many of the things you said - particularly about the band aging, and fans managing their expectations. Like I just said, I'm probably guilty of having unrealistic expectations of them myself. But at the same time, I don't think you can blame people for being passionate, or for voicing an opinion on an open discussion forum. In my opinion, someone voicing praise for the snippets we've heard is just as valid as someone saying "probably time the band threw in the towel".
At least people are being honest, and I would wager that the band values that over anything when it comes to opinions on their work.
I also have to say that I think it's a bit objectionable and quite the presumption to imply that those of us who aren't liking what we're hearing and voicing it have some kind of internal issue we need to "figure out". I realize you were referring to the "derogatory" posts you mentioned, but still. I'm quite stable in my life (at the moment, lol) and can tell you that it's no internal struggle that makes me agree with much of the criticism I've seen here..
Originally posted by beerok:.....We have a 5 year old at home and we try to teach her that how we speak and how we react is our own choice and responsibility. If you dislike something, it is better to just let it be. Constructive comments and discussions are good to have, but plain bashing and trashing is quite pointless. People who do that tend to have some kind of inner unresolved conflict that they can't deal with.......
Originally posted by cmaly:...Regarding criticism of U2: it's cyclical and necessary. Their best work has always been born of critique and Brian Eno. It's okay to pan mediocre work from a band capable of the impossible...