1. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    Ohhh I didn't know UTEOTW premiered before The Fly, I thought the Win Wenders film went out around the same time as the AB album
    UTEOTE was wrote in 1988
  2. The Wenders movie premiered in September 1991 in german cinemas; the soundtrack was released in December of that year, if I remember correctly it was held back because of U2, who had asked not to release it before Achtung Baby. But I am not sure about that, its just a faint memory.
    The soundtrack album is great, by the way. U2, Nick Cave, REM, Lou Reed....on of the best OSTs I know.

    The movie itself is rather "meh"...
  3. Originally posted by Papo:The Wenders movie premiered in September 1991 in german cinemas; the soundtrack was released in December of that year, if I remember correctly it was held back because of U2, who had asked not to release it before Achtung Baby. But I am not sure about that, its just a faint memory.
    The soundtrack album is great, by the way. U2, Nick Cave, REM, Lou Reed....on of the best OSTs I know.

    The movie itself is rather "meh"...
    I think you're right about that I remember hearing similar things about delaying the soundtrack until AB was released, people were very eager to hear U2's new musical direction as the hype machine was very much in overdrive as to what the new U2 sound would be .
  4. Where did you get that information from? Not saying it’s wrong it’s just the only date I’ve seen in relation to UTEOTW’s origins is 1990.
  5. Until the End of the World" originated from a guitar riff by vocalist Bono from a demo called "Fat Boy" that the band recorded at STS Studios in 1990, prior to the Achtung Baby sessions proper.

    Not 1988 I’m afraid
  6. Most if not all of AB didn’t start to come about until 1990 right? They did just start from scratch didn’t they? Because they specifically wanted to go in a new direction.
  7. Originally posted by Papo:The Wenders movie premiered in September 1991 in german cinemas; the soundtrack was released in December of that year, if I remember correctly it was held back because of U2, who had asked not to release it before Achtung Baby. But I am not sure about that, its just a faint memory.
    The soundtrack album is great, by the way. U2, Nick Cave, REM, Lou Reed....on of the best OSTs I know.

    The movie itself is rather "meh"...
    The film debuted in mid-September in Germany in a limited release. The Fly hit radio at the start of October, so yes Until The End of the World could be heard first if you had access to a German showing of the film.

    The film got a wider release later in the year elsewhere. Late-October in UK and most of Europe. So that would have been after The Fly was out. The film released in the US in December, and the soundtrack album was timed to match the US opening.
  8. Originally posted by deanallison:Most if not all of AB didn’t start to come about until 1990 right? They did just start from scratch didn’t they? Because they specifically wanted to go in a new direction.
    They did do some work earlier on it, and some of the songs did originate during sessions for Rattle and Hum. They took some songs with them to Berlin to work on. Bono and Edge playing “She’s Gonna Blow Your House Down” was filmed in late 1987 at Jimmy Iovine’s house for instance. And “Wake Up Dead Man” had been around since “The Joshua Tree” as well as a title and a demo. And it was taken with them to Berlin…
  9. Originally posted by u2wanderer1:[..]
    They did do some work earlier on it, and some of the songs did originate during sessions for Rattle and Hum. They took some songs with them to Berlin to work on. Bono and Edge playing “She’s Gonna Blow Your House Down” was filmed in late 1987 at Jimmy Iovine’s house for instance. And “Wake Up Dead Man” had been around since “The Joshua Tree” as well as a title and a demo. And it was taken with them to Berlin…
    Good point, I remember a few clips of she’s gonna blow your house down from the rattle and hum era now you mention it. I know it’s probably pretty common for them to take some basic ideas from previous sessions but wasn’t sure in the case of AB with it being such a drastic change if they just put everything else to one side and started with a clean slate. Thanks for the reminder.
  10. I looked into this and I'm pretty sure that some of the tracks/ideas started in '88/'89. 'The instrumental 'Real Thing' that's on the salome bootlegs was recorded during the sessions of Desire. And during LoveTown soundchecks there was an early version of TTTYAATW and something that sounds like a mash between Until/UV. Wild Horses as an instrumental was also around before 1990 I think.

    None of those were finished as written songs with lyrics I think until they started proper in Elsinore in '91. But that's my guess, maybe the wrong tapes got stolen/misplaced and they had more ready. I mean, Sick Puppy isn't on them and that was One ( ) they wanted to get right in Berlin.
  11. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    Where did you get that information from? Not saying it’s wrong it’s just the only date I’ve seen in relation to UTEOTW’s origins is 1990.
    i don’t where i got it i’ve read that TTTYAATW and UTEOTW where already a thing developing in 1988, like Wake Up Dead Man for Pop which started being developed 10 years before, only that these two were born 4 years before
  12. Originally posted by melon51:I looked into this and I'm pretty sure that some of the tracks/ideas started in '88/'89. 'The instrumental 'Real Thing' that's on the salome bootlegs was recorded during the sessions of Desire. And during LoveTown soundchecks there was an early version of TTTYAATW and something that sounds like a mash between Until/UV. Wild Horses as an instrumental was also around before 1990 I think.


    Are the audio of those available somewhere?