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  1. His drumming (from what I see on YouTube) might be the perfect sound for these Sphere shows : very corporate, very basic, and placing profit over content.
  2. Here's a question for any of you drummers out there - how do you learn to play someone else's songs? As much as I like music, I can't play a damned thing, know absolutely nothing about the technical stuff but do know some notes are written down on paper. Yes, I should have paid more attention at school or watched some YT videos, but how does Bram learn the songs? Is it just listen and copy, talk to Larry, or what?.
    I literally have no idea.
  3. I used to play the drums, and I would imagine he's been playing along to their music/covering their songs for years, so he probably has a basic idea of how the song should sound and what the drums are doing. I can't imagine there's a need for him to meet with Larry and go over what LMJ does on certain songs, because he can hear the songs and watch videos and pick up on what is required. (That would also be incredibly intimidating!) I would expect him to be watching a lot of live videos, and then playing with the other three members of U2 as much as possible.

    Larry's playing isn't overly technical or difficult, so I would think that he (Bram) can play all of the parts with minimal practice, but I would bet that we the fans will be able to tell a difference if we were to do a "blind taste test" comparing a song with Bram to a song with Larry.
  4. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bram and Larry never meet in person. I really can’t see Larry taking the interest in showing Bram the ropes.
  5. We will all hear at the end of September 2023 what the rooki can deliver, reenact, copy. Whatever you call it. He doesn't have my blessing to pose as U2 in the spotlight as a replacement for Larry Mullen and pretend he's something special. I don't know, copied music that the rooki never created, composed and played in public himself.This is not music art to steal from another artist. And so it's not really drumming either. My opinion.
  6. Originally posted by Sydney_MIke:Here's a question for any of you drummers out there - how do you learn to play someone else's songs? As much as I like music, I can't play a damned thing, know absolutely nothing about the technical stuff but do know some notes are written down on paper. Yes, I should have paid more attention at school or watched some YT videos, but how does Bram learn the songs? Is it just listen and copy, talk to Larry, or what?.
    I literally have no idea.
    Listen to the songs, watch videos.. get the basic stuff down- timing, tempo, meter, the feel of the songs. Then build in intricacies with techniques fills, etc. Start simple then add bits in. Larry's technique and style aren't complicated, so he should do well. Or course he isn't THE man, but he should do okay. Even something like SBS, which to me is Larry's signature song, is easy to learn. No idea if Krezip use(d) IEMs, he'll have to take some time to get used to that and tailor his feed to what he wants. If they never used them before, he'll have to get accustomed to it. Lots of practice, with and without the other three.
  7. Thanks for taking the time to explain 😊
  8. Originally posted by felix2:I don't know, copied music that the rooki never created, composed and played in public himself.This is not music art to steal from another artist.


    Does your opinion extend to Larry and the band themselves? U2 has an extensive catalogue of other people's songs they have recorded or played live. Did they steal from other artists in using Helter Skelter, Unchained Melody, Paint It Black, Satellite Of Love or Night & Day just to name a few. Or what about all the snippets Bono invokes. How do you distinguish those from Bram "stealing" material he has been asked by the band to play?

    Not challenging your right to hold your opinion, just want to understand your point of view better.
  9. Originally posted by Sydney_MIke:[..]


    Does your opinion extend to Larry and the band themselves? U2 has an extensive catalogue of other people's songs they have recorded or played live. Did they steal from other artists in using Helter Skelter, Unchained Melody, Paint It Black, Satellite Of Love or Night & Day just to name a few. Or what about all the snippets Bono invokes. How do you distinguish those from Bram "stealing" material he has been asked by the band to play?

    Not challenging your right to hold your opinion, just want to understand your point of view better.
    U2 know that the composer is compensated in the form of money, i.e. the lyricist. The rooki plays in another band, who himself replaced another. He just plays the stuff of U2's music, that means the drum part of Larry Mullen. This has nothing to do with a work of art or music per se, but with reproducibility in imitating, replaying and copying sounds. The rooki hasn't created anything new for U2 so far. We will see and hear how the rooki will play the drum part of the songs at the end of September 2023. Maybe we'll hear something of our own style, which of course ruins the song by U2. As I said, the others align themselves with the drumming. If that doesn't work for some reason, tempo, hitting power, the details, the volume, then it doesn't fit. I hope I was able to answer your questions.
  10. Originally posted by podiumboy:I wouldn’t be surprised if Bram and Larry never meet in person. I really can’t see Larry taking the interest in showing Bram the ropes.
    I'm with you in this one. If Larry can't / isn't medically allowed to / isn't bothered to drum for the Vegas shows, I very much doubt he finds the time and interest to drum to teach his substitute. That is just not happening.

    And, as some others have pointed out here, it's not even neccesary: any trained musician (and Bram certainly is) is able to learn mostly any song just by listening to it and practicing it over and over.
  11. As a dutch fan, Bram is a good drummer. Met him with a clinic at Feedback Rotterdam in 2006. Together with Rodney Holmes. Was a nice evening. Asked them or they ever used an drumtrainingmethode to swap a whole drumkit from lefthanded to righthanded so to train your brains. Rodney liked the idee. I don’t know or Rodney or Bram ever have tried it. This trainingsmethod I knew from an other famous drummer in Holland , Remco van der Sluis. I wish Bram a lot of succes in Vegas.
  12. Originally posted by bonoschild:[..]
    Listen to the songs, watch videos.. get the basic stuff down- timing, tempo, meter, the feel of the songs. Then build in intricacies with techniques fills, etc. Start simple then add bits in. Larry's technique and style aren't complicated, so he should do well. Or course he isn't THE man, but he should do okay. Even something like SBS, which to me is Larry's signature song, is easy to learn. No idea if Krezip use(d) IEMs, he'll have to take some time to get used to that and tailor his feed to what he wants. If they never used them before, he'll have to get accustomed to it. Lots of practice, with and without the other three.
    Suppose he'll also have access to a number of drum only tracks from U2 shows gone by, some good reference material for sure!