1. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    I never said you couldn’t complain I just don’t agree with the way it’s been done and the extent of it. Doesn’t mean I can stop you or want to stop you just means I don’t agree with your outlook.
    Fair enough
  2. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    Well it doesn’t say much about someone if they’re view of disgusting is the price of a ticket. It’s not like by reducing ticket prices we’re going to reduce poverty so the notion that it can be comparable or directly linked to kids starving in Africa is well off the mark for me. All it comes across as is people moaning when they go on about ticket prices, I’m not talking about the people having a sensible debate and saying I think the prices are a bit steep, putting me off attending, or words to that effect but if you’re going to start using words like disgusting, disgrace, and they sort of phrases it’s just moaning for the sake of moaning. To comment on the above post when scalpers do it I don’t agree with it I think they’re chancers and I wouldn’t do it myself but I wouldn’t call them disgraceful I just would rather take the option out of there hands and put laws in place but I don’t think it makes them awful human beings. This will be my last post on the matter anyway, I’ve always agreed that the prices are expensive but I think some people’s reaction is in poor taste.

    I was just thinking out loud, I feel there is a link somewhere. Probably the disgust goes beyond ticketpricing. It's not only the price itself, but it's just the money and greed taking over everywhere. For me disgusting is not the right word, but when it comes to U2 it's still confusing me a bit. Their words and lyrics (especially in the past) are a bit contrasting with the moneymachine they have become. But maybe the LiveNation contract is keeping them in a strangehold and they regret signing that.
  3. Y’know what I’m going to apologise for some of my wording and being a bit over the top, that’s an apology to anyone who was offended or felt it was directed at them. I guess there’s a disappointment and frustration in the direction of these prices that’s got to people and I should accept that.
  4. Originally posted by deanallison:Y’know what I’m going to apologise for some of my wording and being a bit over the top, that’s an apology to anyone who was offended or felt it was directed at them. I guess there’s a disappointment and frustration in the direction of these prices that’s got to people and I should accept that.
    Well done. Great post. It’s just frustrating I guess, more than disgusting. It just goes against everything I thought u2 used to stand for. Disappointed is another word I should of used.
  5. Originally posted by MoFoNYR15:[..]
    Well done. Great post. It’s just frustrating I guess, more than disgusting. It just goes against everything I thought u2 used to stand for. Disappointed is another word I should of used.
    Cheers mate, I appreciate the acknowledgment and appreciate where you’re coming from.
  6. I have a sneaking feeling that the 'dynamic pricing' and price drops are already happening. Look at night 2 London. Some of the blocks are now £112 and not £200 (where they ever £200?).

    It seems fairly clear to me the business is far more bothered about maximising revenue rather than ticket sales.

    They would rather sell one seat at £208 to one fan, who only sees one show, and leave a ticket unsold leaving a fan pay twice as much as last time and only see one show, than maximise the number of tickets sold.

    A business model which shuts fans out by cost, or lets fans boycott or sit out tours, and thus generates general annoyance and dissatisfaction in favour of making *slightly* more money overall is poor.

    It's more about making a LOT of money than ensuring fans get to see their favourite band.
  7. Originally posted by markreed:I have a sneaking feeling that the 'dynamic pricing' and price drops are already happening. Look at night 2 London. Some of the blocks are now £112 and not £200 (where they ever £200?).

    It seems fairly clear to me the business is far more bothered about maximising revenue rather than ticket sales.

    They would rather sell one seat at £208 to one fan, who only sees one show, and leave a ticket unsold leaving a fan pay twice as much as last time and only see one show, than maximise the number of tickets sold.

    A business model which shuts fans out by cost, or lets fans boycott or sit out tours, and thus generates general annoyance and dissatisfaction in favour of making *slightly* more money overall is poor.

    It's more about making a LOT of money than ensuring fans get to see their favourite band.
    It certainly is. But this has been openly stated by LiveNation spokepersons. "If people are willing to pay twice the value on reseller sites, we should sell it already at twice the value from the beginning so we get it all". More or less is what he said.

    It's all about the $$$ and fans are screwed over. It's extremely sad. I'm fine with companies making money that's what their intention is, but this is just simple greed.
  8. The Milan 4 concert ticket pricing is quite interesting.
    They have reduced alot of the ticket prices in the corners from 224 to 120 euro .
    There seem to be more 86 euro seats behind the stage as well.
  9. Originally posted by Remy:[..]
    It certainly is. But this has been openly stated by LiveNation spokepersons. "If people are willing to pay twice the value on reseller sites, we should sell it already at twice the value from the beginning so we get it all". More or less is what he said.

    It's all about the $$$ and fans are screwed over. It's extremely sad. I'm fine with companies making money that's what their intention is, but this is just simple greed.
    It's a bit of smoke and mirrors because only a fraction of the tickets get sold on reseller sites but what U2 are doing is selling nearly 'All' the tickets at the reseller price thereby locking out a lot of fans who would have bought tickets at a more reasonable price. Not everyone who buys a ticket is selling it on Stubhub for a large profit but this in effect is what Live nation and by extension U2 are saying.

    It is greed pure and simple no matter who sells the ticket. In this case U2 are in fact no better then the reseller sites and indeed you could argue they are worse because they are selling nearly all the tickets at the inflated price.

    Of course they are entitled to do this but it makes a lot of their 'Red' stuff sound a bit hollow.
  10. Originally posted by Kevtic:[...]
    It is greed pure and simple no matter who sells the ticket. In this case U2 are in fact no better then the reseller sites and indeed you could argue they are worse because they are selling nearly all the tickets at the inflated price.

    Of course they are entitled to do this but it makes a lot of their 'Red' stuff sound a bit hollow.
    Not to defend U2 here. Just wondering what the difference is between "inflated price" and "market price"?

    You could also argue that U2 is selling a number of tickets on "deflated" or "subsidized" prices. I mean, "inflated" prices are simply a refection of the demand in respect to the supply. Perhaps there are just more people that want to see and hear U2 than the number of tickets available. Just a thought...
  11. Originally posted by BigGiRL:[..]
    Not to defend U2 here. Just wondering what the difference is between "inflated price" and "market price"?

    You could also argue that U2 is selling a number of tickets on "deflated" or "subsidized" prices. I mean, "inflated" prices are simply a refection of the demand in respect to the supply. Perhaps there are just more people that want to see and hear U2 than the number of tickets available. Just a thought...
    Set an example. Sell the tickets at a reasonable price. Enough with this “market value”. Let the scalpers remain the evil. This way makes u2 look evil and really shitty. This isn’t how u beat scalpers. This is how you turn off your fans who have supported you and gave you this magnificent life.
  12. Originally posted by MoFoNYR15:[..]
    Set an example. Sell the tickets at a reasonable price. Enough with this “market value”. Let the scalpers remain the evil. This way makes u2 look evil and really shitty. This isn’t how u beat scalpers. This is how you turn off your fans who have supported you and gave you this magnificent life.
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    If they sell the same tickets more than 300% more expensive (and those are not sold yet) than in 2015, I can't call it marketing (maybe just ridiculous marketing)