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  1. Originally posted by SJKamal:[..]
    Doesn't really matter. WWE signed a 10 year deal with Saudi Arabia but no women are allowed to perform at the events. They accepted because the money was to good to turn down. If the money for LiveNation is to good to turn down then U2 will go there.
    I'm quite sure U2 can decide that themselves
  2. You'd be surprised..
  3. Originally posted by dylbagz:[..]


    That's the problem with all the songs from innocence and experience in a live setting for me. Only die-hards and the band understand or even care about them. What's the big deal about cedarwood road or 13 for a casual there to see the hits?

    Disagree about Cedarwood Road - you could have chosen almost any of the other SOI or SOE songs, but precisely Cedarwood Road left many casuals jaw-dropped. My girl wasn't a fan when she attended her first shows in 2015 and she left the Ziggo Dome raving about Cedarwood Road.

    Off topic I know, but I had to stand in for my fav SOI song
  4. Originally posted by dylbagz:[..]


    That's the problem with all the songs from innocence and experience in a live setting for me. Only die-hards and the band understand or even care about them. What's the big deal about cedarwood road or 13 for a casual there to see the hits?

    Disagree about Cedarwood Road - you could have chosen almost any of the other SOI or SOE songs, but precisely Cedarwood Road left many casuals jaw-dropped. My girl wasn't a fan when she attended her first shows in 2015 and she left the Ziggo Dome raving about Cedarwood Road.

    Off topic I know, but I had to stand by my fav SOI song
  5. why? You really think LiveNation can oblige U2 to play at the inauguration of Trump for example? If they really disagree with something, they can just 'veto it' I guess..
  6. Okay they can ‘veto’ it but they have a contract with LN for ten years...
    After the change of management a lot has changed for U2. I think there is a clear difference between European and American management. They may be more supported and have greater opportunities, but in their own freedom they are more limited.
  7. Originally posted by Orentelori:Okay they can ‘veto’ it but they have a contract with LN for ten years...
    After the change of management a lot has changed for U2. I think there is a clear difference between European and American management. They may be more supported and have greater opportunities, but in their own freedom they are more limited.
    yes, of course when you sign a contract you have certain obligations and that means less freedom. But some seem to think Livenation can make U2 do whatever they want, but I think that's far from the truth. JT30 apparently happened because of contractual obligations, but even then it was a very graceful solution which didn't do U2 any harm.
  8. Originally posted by Ricku2:[..]
    why? You really think LiveNation can oblige U2 to play at the inauguration of Trump for example? If they really disagree with something, they can just 'veto it' I guess..
    I'll refer back to WWE. They got really bad publicity when they signed the deal with Saudi Arabia. But did they care? not really. They're making more money from the shows in Saudi than they would from any show in America (maybe not Wrestlemania). There's even rumours that Saudi Arabia even payed for all the transport costs etc.

    At the first show in Saudi, they literally brought out John Cena (for those who don't know he's the typical patriotic American, imagine Captain America) out to say how honoured the WWE are to be here and that Saudi is such a great country. If the deal is lucrative enough for LiveNation, and lets say that the UAE cover the costs of transport, then LiveNation will be making a ridiculous amount of money, probably the most they've made from any show. They would definitely send U2 out there.

    I can even picture Bono giving a John Cena esque speech, saying how honoured the U2 group are to finally be here, and that its a country that has always fascinated him blah blah. He'll probably say something along the lines of "This country has come so far, but still has so far to go". Money talks.
  9. Originally posted by SJKamal:[..]
    I'll refer back to WWE. They got really bad publicity when they signed the deal with Saudi Arabia. But did they care? not really. They're making more money from the shows in Saudi than they would from any show in America (maybe not Wrestlemania). There's even rumours that Saudi Arabia even payed for all the transport costs etc.

    At the first show in Saudi, they literally brought out John Cena (for those who don't know he's the typical patriotic American, imagine Captain America) out to say how honoured the WWE are to be here and that Saudi is such a great country. If the deal is lucrative enough for LiveNation, and lets say that the UAE cover the costs of transport, then LiveNation will be making a ridiculous amount of money, probably the most they've made from any show. They would definitely send U2 out there.

    I can even picture Bono giving a John Cena esque speech, saying how honoured the U2 group are to finally be here, and that its a country that has always fascinated him blah blah. He'll probably say something along the lines of "This country has come so far, but still has so far to go". Money talks.
    They would definitely TRY to send U2 out there. Question is, can they force U2 to go there.. I don't think so... in my opinion it's not even a question.
  10. It is a good point to raise about the live nation contract. From information we have been told by a reliable member then yes u2 did have to play a tour for them last year but how much control do live nation have? Can they tell them to play anywhere and whenever it suits them? Do they perhaps have to do a tour for every album they release? There’s so many questions. I found it hard to believe u2 were obligated to play TJT shows so now I don’t know where the line lies. Are u2 really not in a more powerful position than a less established band signed up to live nation? Will there not be at least a few terms that protect u2 to some extent? I’m really intrigued now but I wouldn’t voice an opinion now without knowing a few more facts.
  11. Originally posted by deanallison:It is a good point to raise about the live nation contract. From information we have been told by a reliable member then yes u2 did have to play a tour for them last year but how much control do live nation have? Can they tell them to play anywhere and whenever it suits them? Do they perhaps have to do a tour for every album they release? There’s so many questions. I found it hard to believe u2 were obligated to play TJT shows so now I don’t know where the line lies. Are u2 really not in a more powerful position than a less established band signed up to live nation? Will there not be at least a few terms that protect u2 to some extent? I’m really intrigued now but I wouldn’t voice an opinion now without knowing a few more facts.
    well, nobody here knows what's exactly in the contract, so don't let that hold you back. A contract usually is something that gives you some obligations in return for money. It's not like the other party is getting full control of you. And certainly with well established musicians, sportspeople etc the contract will be full of clauses and secondary conditions.
  12. Originally posted by SJKamal:[..]
    I'll refer back to WWE. They got really bad publicity when they signed the deal with Saudi Arabia. But did they care? not really. They're making more money from the shows in Saudi than they would from any show in America (maybe not Wrestlemania). There's even rumours that Saudi Arabia even payed for all the transport costs etc.

    At the first show in Saudi, they literally brought out John Cena (for those who don't know he's the typical patriotic American, imagine Captain America) out to say how honoured the WWE are to be here and that Saudi is such a great country. If the deal is lucrative enough for LiveNation, and lets say that the UAE cover the costs of transport, then LiveNation will be making a ridiculous amount of money, probably the most they've made from any show. They would definitely send U2 out there.

    I can even picture Bono giving a John Cena esque speech, saying how honoured the U2 group are to finally be here, and that its a country that has always fascinated him blah blah. He'll probably say something along the lines of "This country has come so far, but still has so far to go". Money talks.
    Yawn.

    If they did play there I'd never forgive them.

    If they do play there - I hope they play Love Is Bigger with the visuals and Women of the World + Ultraviolet from JT2017 with the luminous icons.