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  1. Originally posted by deanallison:I know this has been asked a while back but can’t remember what thread and the answers but if we just forget about blu Ray and just talk at least dvd level and that includes having enough cameras for enough footage how many shows realistically could be suitable for a future release? I’m assuming with some of the earlier tours anything that was taped could be realistic if it was well stored because the staging set up was more basic and not many cameras would have been needed to really capture the show as opposed to a 360 show which would probably need to be a show with plenty of cameras, or am I mistaken?
    I guess Berlin 81, Dortmund 84, Syracuse/Los Angeles 87, Sydney 89, Stockholm 92, Rotterdam 97 and South Bend 01 would be the best candidates.

    PS. Do we really think the biggest band on Earth would release a DVD (a format that got superseded almost 15 years ago) well into the 20s of this century? They've always embraced state of the art technology (with varying results tbh) and releasing anything in an obsolete format is so against that... makes it hard to believe to me.
  2. Formats don't die. Just look at vinyl. The DVD is still the format that is in most people's houses. Sorry, but it is.
  3. Yeah, casette was also the format that was in most people's cars and houses and it just got replaced by CD. It's a matter of time.
  4. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    I guess Berlin 81, Dortmund 84, Syracuse/Los Angeles 87, Sydney 89, Stockholm 92, Rotterdam 97 and South Bend 01 would be the best candidates.

    PS. Do we really think the biggest band on Earth would release a DVD (a format that got superseded almost 15 years ago) well into the 20s of this century? They've always embraced state of the art technology (with varying results tbh) and releasing anything in an obsolete format is so against that... makes it hard to believe to me.
    Oh, there is way more than just Syracuse and LA for the fall leg of 1987. The bootlegs released are from the Sony camera crew for stadium shows as they added a screen during that time frame (1st and 2nd leg JT 1987 did not have screens for most stadium shows). So any stadium shows from the fall leg with a screen in use were shot that way. I believe that is all video tape though. They did shoot many shows in 35mm for the Rattle and Hum project during that same time frame. But a lot of that is obviously black and white as well. But all of that footage would probably be suitable for use. I think there is a legal tie up though with Paramount regarding most of that. The full final show in Tempe 1987 would be a great release. But if that were to happen it would most likely have been with the 30th anniversary of JT and/or if they did some type of Rattle and Hum deluxe edition (which I doubt due to the movie licensing problems I mentioned).

    I was suprised they did release the Red Rocks show a few years ago for that deluxe edition. So anything is possible I guess. Just probably not likely.

    Just an FYI for the general thread. I cannot confirm this but what I have "heard" is that the Dublin 89 full show footage is not suitable for distribution or use. So I would not hold your breath on a full release of that one. Maybe more excerpts from it like we already have but not the full show.
  5. Cassettes are back btw. U2 and most larger bands do things right by releasing multiple formats at multiple price points.
  6. Another thing I noticed the Rolling Stones released a couple of 90’s shows on blu Ray not so long ago. Does that mean zoo tv Sydney and Popmart Mexico City could be upgraded to blu Ray, and perhaps other shows from around then depending on how they were filmed?
  7. Originally posted by Blue_Room:[..]
    Oh, there is way more than just Syracuse and LA for the fall leg of 1987. The bootlegs released are from the Sony camera crew for stadium shows as they added a screen during that time frame (1st and 2nd leg JT 1987 did not have screens for most stadium shows). So any stadium shows from the fall leg with a screen in use were shot that way. I believe that is all video tape though. They did shoot many shows in 35mm for the Rattle and Hum project during that same time frame. But a lot of that is obviously black and white as well. But all of that footage would probably be suitable for use. I think there is a legal tie up though with Paramount regarding most of that. The full final show in Tempe 1987 would be a great release. But if that were to happen it would most likely have been with the 30th anniversary of JT and/or if they did some type of Rattle and Hum deluxe edition (which I doubt due to the movie licensing problems I mentioned).
    Yeah sure, many late 87 gigs were obviously pro-filmed (and surely in better quality than the mediocre LA and Syracuse bootlegs) for R&H but I don't think any of them would make up for a standalone release since they were filmed in a very precise, R&H-oriented way imo (besides the ©Paramount issue that you mention and we also discussed the other day in this or another thread). I could be speaking bullshit as usual, it's just a gut feeling based on nothing

    Agree about Tempe though!
  8. Originally posted by deanallison:Another thing I noticed the Rolling Stones released a couple of 90’s shows on blu Ray not so long ago. Does that mean zoo tv Sydney and Popmart Mexico City could be upgraded to blu Ray, and perhaps other shows from around then depending on how they were filmed?
    I don't see why not.

    Bridges To Bremen was already in circulation amongst fans, like Adelaide 1993 or Santiago 1998 with U2.

    The official release of Bremen was a big upgrade from the bootlegged TV broadcasts.
  9. Originally posted by deanallison:Another thing I noticed the Rolling Stones released a couple of 90’s shows on blu Ray not so long ago. Does that mean zoo tv Sydney and Popmart Mexico City could be upgraded to blu Ray, and perhaps other shows from around then depending on how they were filmed?
    As far as I/we know they were videtaped (not filmed on film) so they're not "upgradeable". Maybe these RS gigs were filmed and therefore there was a chance to upgrade them like U2 did with R&H?

    We discussed this the other day as I just mentioned in my previous post... I'm trying to bring back the discussion but can't seem to find it
  10. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    As far as I/we know they were videtaped (not filmed on film) so they're not "upgradeable". Maybe these RS gigs were filmed and therefore there was a chance to upgrade them like U2 did with R&H?

    We discussed this the other day as I just mentioned in my previous post... I'm trying to bring back the discussion but can't seem to find it
    Would that not be unusual though that the Rolling Stones were filming gigs to that level back then and probably weren’t sure if they were ever going to release it but u2 wouldn’t? It would seem unusual for u2 not to be filming there gigs in the same way or only taping them as you mentioned. Why wouldn’t they be filmed as opposed to tape I guess is what I’m asking.
  11. Comparison between bootleg TV broadcast and official:



  12. Quite an upgrade indeed.

    @deanallison I have no clue I'm just guessing just like anyone else haha